Educated Prediction - I can't see GT in this

[ssj_duelist]

I will explain why shortly but for now I should warn you that GT may not be in despite what was said. They could be refering to GT characters on menu screens or something similar. As for DB characters they could just be reffering to either a) selection screens or b) characters who were in DB (Goku, Krillin, possibly Roshi etc).

As to why I don't think GT will be in is due to space. 20 new characters right?

Take away the 6 'never before seen characters' Minus the 3 ones we knowThat leaves us with 11. I'll list the 'shoe-ins' who are very likely.

Ultimate Gohan Cooler Final Form Cooler Android 13 Super Android 13 Final Form BojackThat leaves us with 5 (I know the listed ones aren't 100% but are extremely likely following what we know so far).

We stillÂ*have several DBZ mainstream characters who could fit the 5 and that is not enough for GT. Main candidates include: Supreme Kai, Mecha Frieza, Saibemen, Cell Jr, Hercule, Evil Buu, Meta CoolerÂ*and possibly Kid Uub.

As for the '6 never before seen characters'; take that with a grain of salt. This is from their perspective. They could mean 6 exclusives or 6 characters never in a Spike game, which would include Kid Uub.

Now based on last year's trend of giving us Broly and then later showing us SS3 Broly and the fact we just recived Turles, quite a random movie character among most, I can see Super Saiyan Turles what if. Though don't quote me on that.

[MysticGospel]

I still think GT and Dragonball will be in, which will totally screw up the roster additions.

[ssjgohan2009]

as long bojack cooler make in am happy whats worng with gt gt is coolÂ* but think outy gt we only get ssj4 gouk ssj4 vegeta oamga sheorn and ssj4 gogeta out dragon ball knig picoclo kid goku ar ethe only popler one as kid killin hsi ben in db game befor they 6 chraters who have not ever ben in they said 6 charaters who ever not ever ben befor the ps1 ps2 and ps3Â* that means kid ubb is not one if them

[Frieza_Soldier]

We NEED more ofÂ* Bardock's Team. Atleast Fasha, Tora and Shugesh so we can have a longer Bardock saga:

Dadoria vs Fasha, Tora, Shugesh Bardock vs Dadoria Frieza vs Bardock

[ssj_duelist]

Why are people posting biased, and crap, lists? No one cares about Bardock's team.

What people also seem to not understand is that transformations are seperate characters in Spikes eyes.

[Kokos]

I think the chances of GT being in are pretty much 50/50. I don't want GT at all but I believe GT will be in since so many people seem to want GT characters for some weird reason, even if that means having a crappy roster in the end.

Still, with these 6 characters:

SSJ4 Goku

SSJ4 Vegeta

SSJ4 Gogeta

Super Baby 2

Super 17

Omega Shenron

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you can have a very basic GT saga. And people willÂ*scream over them like little girls so win-win for Spike. =3

But you never know, Japanese companies can take really illogical decisions. So we have to wait more for a confirmation of GT.

[ssj_duelist]

Possibly but veyr unlikely. Also we only have room for 5. Without GT kid Goku then no General Rildo!

[MysticGospel]

Possibly but veyr unlikely. Also we only have room for 5. Without GT kid Goku then no General Rildo!

Which is why I think the roster additions will suck. If Spike is doing what I think they're doing, they're trying to put a little bit of everything in this game which will give us a very incomplete roster.

They should just focus on the missing Z characters and add more movie characters. For RB3, they should then add GT since they can give us a more complete roster instead of the crap they tried to pull in BT1.

[GF9000000Returns]

Which is why I think the roster additions will suck. If Spike is doing what I think they're doing, they're trying to put a little bit of everything in this game which will give us a very incomplete roster.

They should just focus on the missing Z characters and add more movie characters. For RB3, they should then add GT since they can give us a more complete roster instead of the crap they tried to pull in BT1.



The ONLY Z characters missing (IMO) are:

1. Pikkon
2. Ultimate Gohan
3. Spopovitch
4. Cooler
5. Bojack
6. Zangya
7. Android 13
8. Meta Cooler

WE DON'T NEED ANYBODY ELSE! Even Kid Pan is useless to me.

[MysticGospel]

The ONLY Z characters missing (IMO) are:

1. Pikkon
2. Ultimate Gohan
3. Spopovitch
4. Cooler
5. Bojack
6. Zangya
7. Android 13
8. Meta Cooler

WE DON'T NEED ANYBODY ELSE! Even Kid Pan is useless to me.


That's 8 out of the 11 empty spaces we have, actually if you count their transformations that's all 11 slots.

And what about:

Saibaman

Cell Jr

Supreme Kai

Garlic Jr

Mecha Frieza

Future Gohan

[ssj_duelist]

I completly forgot about Pikkon. Now we have Janemba he also seems like a very likely candidate.

[Raging_Blast_2]

The 6 never before seen characters could include:

1. General Rildo

2. Eis Shenron

3. GT Goten

4. Kid Krillin

And then 2 what-if's:

5. SS2 Trunks (Cell saga)

6. SS Bardock

Then we have the 3 confirmed:

7. Janenba

8. Turles

9. Dabura

The following from DBZ (and movies)Â*have a chance of being in:

10. Ultimate Gohan

11. Saibamen

12. Cell Junior

13. Cooler

14. Final Form

15. Meta Cooler

And that just leaves GT and 1 Dragon Ball character:

16. Kid Goku (Dragon Ball)

17. GT Goku

18. SS

19. SS3

20. SS4

21. SS4 Vegeta

22. Bebi

23. Final Form

24. Super 17

25. Syn Shenron

26. Omega Shenron

It DOESN'T have to be exactly 20 characters, and we've never had a fixed number from a DBZ game from Spike, in BT3 OVER 40 characters were added, BT2 OVER 30 characters were added. And if 26 is too much take away 2 characters: Saibamen and Cell Juniors or just the Cell Juniors (Saibamen had a bigger role in the story imo) if you believe there is to be 25 new characters. Spike could also be doing it this way: 20 new characters PLUS 6 never before seen characters = 26. Hopefully.

[itsover9000]

unless they arent counting transformations which is very unlikley. but i dont think theyd do the npc thing. these are the people that bought us BT3 right? 150 characters(tho some-most were pointless)

[MysticGospel]

It DOESN'T have to be exactly 20 characters, and we've never had a fixed number from a DBZ game from Spike, in BT3 OVER 40 characters were added, BT2 OVER 30 characters were added. And if 26 is too much take away 2 characters: Saibamen and Cell Juniors or just the Cell Juniors (Saibamen had a bigger role in the story imo) if you believe there is to be 25 new characters. Spike could also be doing it this way: 20 new characters PLUS 6 never before seen characters = 26. Hopefully.



"Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 2 is the sequel to last year’shigh-flying, fast-hitting, and intense versus battles series. Sportingmore than 90 characters, 20 of which are brand new to the Raging Blastseries, new modes, and additional environmental effects, Dragon Ball:Raging Blast 2 is the next evolution in the home console series."

It says 20 new characters, not over 20, but 20.

[BardockRulez]

Why are people posting biased, and crap, lists? No one cares about Bardock's team.

What people also seem to not understand is that transformations are seperate characters in Spikes eyes.



I really wished that transformations weren't counted as other characters.

[ssj_duelist]

This isn't a 'post your crappy list' thread. So stop doing that it is clogiing it up and it is ugly.

They do count transformations as characters - so people learn that We are getting exactly 20 new characters 6 of them have never previously been playable.Those are the facts, don't get your hopes up or anything else. On witht this knowledge can you make any sort of assumption.

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[The_Pumpkin_King]

I really wished that transformations weren't counted as other characters.

Well a transformed character is technically a different character.

Take Goku from RB as a example:

Normal Goku has different Supers and combo's compared to SSJ Goku

So i don't really mind that they do that just look at Devil Jin, Evil Ryu and i think Kyuubii Naruto from UNS was counted as a different character.

[LowFist]

The ONLY Z characters missing (IMO) are:

1. Pikkon
2. Ultimate Gohan
3. Spopovitch
4. Cooler
5. Bojack
6. Zangya
7. Android 13
8. Meta Cooler

WE DON'T NEED ANYBODY ELSE! Even Kid Pan is useless to me.


I've always wanted to play as Pikkon

[ssjgohan2009]

kid kirlin his ben ib db game befor theyÂ* so he cant be new

[MysticGospel]

I've always wanted to play as Pikkon



What was the last DBZ game you played?

[ssjgohan2009]

The 6 never before seen characters could include:

1. General Rildo

2.Â*ice Shenron

3. ?

4.Â*hatchyackÂ* more poler then kid krillin and kid kirllin his ben in db game befor

5. SSj3 teen gohan

6. SSj Bardock

7. Janenba

8. Turles

9. Dabura

10. Ultimate Gohan

11. bojack fianl fromÂ*need to be inÂ*no wayÂ* dosÂ* Saibamen need to be in over bojack he more popler

12. pikkon

13. Cooler final form

14. Meta Cooler

15. Kid Goku (Dragon Ball)

16. king piccolo

17. GT Goku base

18. SS

19. SS3

20. SS4

21. SS4 Vegeta

22. ssj4 gogeta

23. Beby vegeta Final Form

24. Super 17

25. Omega Shenron

[ssjgohan2009]

like said bojack need to be in over cell jr sybaman he mroe popler cooler need to be as will

[Stevenator]

while I do agree Bojack and Cooler must be in but you have been repeating this comment for like 100x... I don't think you should take the popular statement too seriously because they couldÂ*announceÂ*a character that was way less popular than the other.

[ssjgohan2009]

i dont mind fi they do that but bojack cooler need to be inÂ* or the game wont be as good mean bojack was in iw that was dum cooler was not in burs tlmit that was dum bojack cooelr war not in raging blast that was dum it ebn over 3 dbz games now that they not benÂ* they need to eb in raging blast2 i want paly as bojack

[Frieza_Soldier]

i dont mind fi they do that but bojack cooler need to be inÂ* or the game wont be as good mean bojack was in iw that was dum cooler was not in burs tlmit that was dum bojack cooelr war not in raging blast that was dum it ebn over 3 dbz games now that they not benÂ* they need to eb in raging blast2 i want paly as bojack

Okay man, you can stop saying they should be in, the probably will be, If Turles and Janemba are then then Bojack, and Cooler should be expected.

[allfornot2]

The 6 never before seen characters could include:

1. General Rildo

2.Â*ice Shenron

3. ?

4.Â*hatchyackÂ* more poler then kid krillin and kid kirllin his ben in db game befor

5. SSj3 teen gohan

6. SSj Bardock

7. Janenba

8. Turles

9. Dabura

10. Ultimate Gohan

11. bojack fianl fromÂ*need to be inÂ*no wayÂ* dosÂ* Saibamen need to be in over bojack he more popler

12. pikkon

13. Cooler final form

14. Meta Cooler

15. Kid Goku (Dragon Ball)

16. king piccolo

17. GT Goku base

18. SS

19. SS3

20. SS4

21. SS4 Vegeta

22. ssj4 gogeta

23. Beby vegeta Final Form

24. Super 17

25. Omega Shenron



I agree with most of this list except for SSj3 teen Gohan, and I don't like SSj4 Vegeta as a standalone character. If he's in they need Gt Vegeta (base, Ssj, and Ssj4)

[BardockRulez]

I agree with the Gt Vegeta being a character.

[Frieza_Soldier]

I agree with most of this list except for SSj3 teen Gohan, and I don't like SSj4 Vegeta as a standalone character. If he's in they need Gt Vegeta (base, Ssj, and Ssj4)

I also disagree with SSj3 teen gohan

[Raging_Blast_2]

"Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 2 is the sequel to last year’s high-flying, fast-hitting, and intense versus battles series. Sporting more than 90 characters, 20 of which are brand new to the Raging Blast series, new modes, and additional environmental effects, Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 2 is the next evolution in the home console series."

It says 20 new characters, not over 20, but 20.




I've said it once, but I'll say it again. They could mean 20 new characters AND 6 never before seen = 26. We'll just have to wait and see.

[Eback91]

The guy said 20 brand new characters, 6 of which have never been in a DBZ game before.

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[MysticGospel]

I've said it once, but I'll say it again. They could mean 20 new characters AND 6 never before seen = 26. We'll just have to wait and see.

"Brand new to the Raging Blast series"

New and never before seen are basically the same thing.

[Frieza_Soldier]

"Brand new to the Raging Blast series"

New and never before seen are basically the same thing.




Not really. Spike will probably add cooler and call him "new" even though we had him before. Since they seem to be trying to put BT3 behind them. Or call them "new" for newer DBZ fans. Unlike other companies spike tries to play us with Words but not actually lie.

I think the "new" will Be the expected like cooler, Bojack, etc. And "Brand new" could probably be: Aka, Tarble, Bio Broly, the other dragons and Kid pan. From what I know they were never in a DB game.

[MysticGospel]

Not really. Spike will probably add cooler and call him "new" even though we had him before. Since they seem to be trying to put BT3 behind them. Or call them "new" for newer DBZ fans. Unlike other companies spike tries to play us with Words but not actually lie.

I think the "new" will Be the expected like cooler, Bojack, etc. And "Brand new" could probably be: Aka, Tarble, Bio Broly, the other dragons and Kid pan. From what I know they were never in a DB game.



It says new to the Raging Blast series, so Cooler, Bojack, Ultimate Gohan, etc count as new.

[Frieza_Soldier]

It says new to the Raging Blast series, so Cooler, Bojack, Ultimate Gohan, etc count as new.

That's what i said

[MysticGospel]

And the 6 never before seen are most likely part of the 20 new.

[Stevenator]

And the 6 never before seen are most likely part of the 20 new.

.

[Raging_Blast_2]

And the 6 never before seen are most likely part of the 20 new.

Nope, look around for the new info. I was right all along, 20 characters + 6 (2 of which are what-ifs)Â*never before seen = 26. Night.

[Eback91]

Nope, look around for the new info. I was right all along, 20 characters + 6 (2 of which are what-ifs)Â*never before seen = 26. Night.

Dude, are you stupid, he posted that 20 hours ago.

[BardockRulez]

I don't think he's online.

[Raging_Blast_2]

Dude, are you stupid, he posted that 20 hours ago.

ROFL, I've been saying this for weeks that it's 20 + 6 never before seen, and I'm just letting him know I was right all along. Got a problem, pal?

[Eback91]

Your post implies he didn't look at the new info, when he in fact did. That post he made was made hours ago. You correcting him makes you look like a dumb***.

[MysticGospel]

ROFL, I've been saying this for weeks that it's 20 + 6 never before seen, and I'm just letting him know I was right all along. Got a problem, pal?

You know, if you actually looked at the posts in the thread, you would have seen that I already looked at link since I posted there. Really, you look pretty immature by saying "Ha! I was right and you were wrong!" to a post that I made nearly a day before the info was posted.

[BardockRulez]

Don't that make him look stupid.

[Frieza_Soldier]

ROFL, I've been saying this for weeks that it's 20 + 6 never before seen,


I thought we already knew that.

[MysticGospel]

I thought we already knew that.

I and others thought the 6 was part of the 20 new.

[Frieza_Soldier]

I and others thought the 6 was part of the 20 new.

I also thouht that too actually but now that leaves more room. The 6 better not be SSJ what-if forms of every other sayian character.

[MysticGospel]

I also thouht that too actually but now that leaves more room. The 6 better not be SSJ what-if forms of every other sayian character.

According to the interview, only 2 of the 6 may be what-ifs.

[Eback91]

I also thouht that too actually but now that leaves more room. The 6 better not be SSJ what-if forms of every other sayian character.

Well the knew info says only 2 are what-if, so yeah.

Edit: lol

[Frieza_Soldier]

Well the knew info says only 2 are what-if, so yeah.

Edit: lol



Better be SSJ Bardock and SSJ2 Future Trunks.

[BardockRulez]

nevermind

But my guess is that the other What-If is SSj Bardock.

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[MysticGospel]

Better be SSJ Bardock and SSJ2 Future Trunks.

It technically can't be SSJ2 Trunks since he was technically in B3.

[BardockRulez]

THANK YOU!!!!

[Frieza_Soldier]

It technically can't be SSJ2 Trunks since he was technically in B3.

but you know as well as I that that wasn't SSJ2 in Budokai 3. It was just SSJ1 Trunks with lightning. NOTHING else, it's been that way in Budokai 2 AND even Infinite world. They were too lazy to give him Ultra Sayian.

And SSJ3 Vegeta/Broly were in Dragon battlers first before Raging blast

[MysticGospel]

but you know as well as I that that wasn't SSJ2 in Budokai 3. It was just SSJ1 Trunks with lightning. NOTHING else, it's been that way in Budokai 2 AND even Infinite world. They were too lazy to give him Ultra Sayian.

And SSJ3 Vegeta/Broly were in Dragon battlers first before Raging blast



I also don't see SSJ2 Trunks as something to attract fans, I want SSJ2 Trunks, but it doesn't sound like SSJ Bardock or SSJ3 Vegeta, it just doesn't sound that big.

I'm willing to bet that if GT's in, one of the what-ifs is going to be SSJ4 Broly.

[Eback91]

I also don't see SSJ2 Trunks as something to attract fans, I want SSJ2 Trunks, but it doesn't sound like SSJ Bardock or SSJ3 Vegeta, it just doesn't sound that big.

I'm willing to bet that if GT's in, one of the what-ifs is going to be SSJ4 Broly.



Which would be a complete travesty =[.

[BardockRulez]

Which would be a complete travesty =[.

Great....give more power to the AlreadyÂ*Over-Powered Brute.

Fantastic idea...NOT!!!

[MysticGospel]

Which would be a complete travesty =[.

Just like SSJ3 Broly, but I'm likely to use him as a punching bag anyway.

[BardockRulez]

i always use Broly as a Punching Bag,ever since Budokai Tenkaichi 2.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Great....give more power to the AlreadyÂ*Over-Powered Brute.

Fantastic idea...NOT!!!



F*ck NO! I don't want a pointless waste like SSJ4 Broly

[Frieza_Soldier]

i always use Broly as a Punching Bag,ever since Budokai Tenkaichi 2.



I only play as the REAL Broly. I ignore the SSJ3 Broly slot all together.

[Eback91]

F*ck NO! I don't want a pointless waste like SSJ4 Broly

-_-, did you even read his post?

[BardockRulez]

Yeah,I never play as SSj3 Broly,on LSSJ Broly.

[Frieza_Soldier]

-_-, did you even read his post?

uhh yes, I did and I'm simply saying I agree and don't want SSJ4 Broly either.... Just the thought of the fans wanting it in makes me outburst.

[Eback91]

My mistake then.

[ssj_duelist]

If the new info is true. This thread is now redundant.

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[majin_ali]

when they bring ssj4 broly in that game i'm not buying that game..

[The_Pumpkin_King]

The US Rep didn't mention Gt nor Origins so it probably wont be in

as for the what-ifs chars im hoping for its:

SSJ Bardock

http://sites.google.com/site/newdragonballaf/ssj_bardock-full.jpg

5th Form Freeza


http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/300W/i/2009/343/e/5/Concept_art____Freeza_5th_form_by_Gothax.png

[ssj_duelist]

Woah who drew that Frieza pick it's amazing!

[allfornot2]

Woah who drew that Frieza pick it's amazing!



I like everything about it except the horns. They just look weird.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

Woah who drew that Frieza pick it's amazing!



Gothhax did

[BardockRulez]

Woah who drew that Frieza pick it's amazing!



Can't argue with that statement.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

But havent u guys seen this pick be4? i only posted it 3-4 times already on this board in link form tough >_>

[LowFist]

What was the last DBZ game you played?

I think the last one was the PSP dbz game. Never got to try BT3

[MysticGospel]

But Pikkon was in Shin budokai, and BT2.

[LowFist]

I only played BT1 and I never unlocked everyone in that game. Friend ended up breaking it :(

[MysticGospel]

What about Shin Budokai?

[majin_ali]

The US Rep didn't mention Gt nor Origins so it probably wont be in

as for the what-ifs chars im hoping for its:

SSJ Bardock

http://sites.google.com/site/newdragonballaf/ssj_bardock-full.jpg

5th Form Freeza


http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/300W/i/2009/343/e/5/Concept_art____Freeza_5th_form_by_Gothax.png



that thing looks g** the horns looks like pigtails from a girl. please don't bring this critter in a Dragonball Game.

[LowFist]

It didn't look like pigtails until you said something. Thanks for ruining it :(

[majin_ali]

It didn't look like pigtails until you said something. Thanks for ruining it :(

don't be sad the Dragonball world has enough cool villians.

[MysticGospel]

Frieza looks sort of effeminate to begin with. Wouldn't his 5th form look more like Cooler's anyway? I also don't really see the Pigtails, I think his horns go outward.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

that thing looks g** the horns looks like pigtails from a girl. please don't bring this critter in a Dragonball Game.

How does it look like Pigtails? it bends to the front of its head not back but either way the horns look stupid the rest of him looks cool tough IMO.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

Frieza looks sort of effeminate to begin with. Wouldn't his 5th form look more like Cooler's anyway? I also don't really see the Pigtails, I think his horns go outward.


Cooler looks different compared to Freeza and King Cold i guess so Freeza (potential) 5th form would look different from Cooler's

[Eback91]

That pic looks siiiick. Just adjust the horns and its perfect.

[MysticGospel]

Cooler looks different compared to Freeza and King Cold i guess so Freeza (potential) 5th form would look different from Cooler's

http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Frieza_Force/Frieza/Frieza_Form_4/FriezaFinalForm.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gpdj3N-gj-8/Ss9QAfONqGI/AAAAAAAAAHs/w4CNTM-1h9U/s320/dragon_ball_cooler.jpg

Yeah, but both of them in the third state looks similar, not interms of actual looks, but they both have the same characteristics.

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http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/dbzchar4.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1337/43043774.png

Same for King Cold who's probably in the first state.

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http://www.brandys-best.de/assets/images/cooler02.jpg

I think that Frieza would look similar to Cooler in the 5th form.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

Yeah, but both of them in the third state looks similar, not interms of actual looks, but they both have the same characteristics.

Same for King Cold who's probably in the first state.

I think that Frieza would look similar to Cooler in the 5th form.



Characteristics? u mean they're both short and slender?

King Cold is most probably in his 2nd form and Him and Freeza's 2nd form look the exact same aside from the obvious colorswap.

So Freeza's 5th form doesn't neccesarily have to look like Cooler's only the characteristics infact id prefer it if he looked somewhat like the pic i posted minus the horns.

[MysticGospel]

Characteristics? u mean they're both short and slender?

King Cold is most probably in his 2nd form and Him and Freeza's 2nd form look the exact same aside from the obvious colorswap.

So Freeza's 5th form doesn't neccesarily have to look like Cooler's only the characteristics infact id prefer it if he looked somewhat like the pic i posted minus the horns.



I think the horns is a characteristic of the 5th form like the mask. Maybe he should also get the horns on his arms.

[ssjjmysticboy]

Kid Krillen, Paragus, Tarble, SSJ Bardock, SSJ Tullece

[The_Pumpkin_King]

I think the horns is a characteristic of the 5th form like the mask. Maybe he should also get the horns on his arms.

So charactereristic is something at wich u can recognize a certain thing? If so than ur wrong about Cooler and Freeza's 4th from having the same characteristics the only thing the same between em is the build that's it.

Cooler has : some kinda chest armor, his head looks completely different compared to freeza, and some more stuff

But anyway 5th form freeza would be a cool what-if and it like it if he'd look like the pic i posted

[Frieza_Soldier]

The US Rep didn't mention Gt nor Origins so it probably wont be in

as for the what-ifs chars im hoping for its:

SSJ Bardock

http://sites.google.com/site/newdragonballaf/ssj_bardock-full.jpg

Bardock would look better if modeled like this but have the bangs differ from Goku's.


5th Form Freeza


http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/300W/i/2009/343/e/5/Concept_art____Freeza_5th_form_by_Gothax.png

This form (above) of Frieza above looks terrible.




I'd rather This: His voice would be used from his 3rd Form. But it looking So much like cooler would seem kinda not as original but it is the logical look.


http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs38/i/2008/313/6/a/freeza__5th_Form_Mouthgaurd_by_MrQuatrario.jpg

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/131/2/e/Frieza_Fifth_Form_by_hsvhrt.jpg


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[MysticGospel]

So charactereristic is something at wich u can recognize a certain thing? If so than ur wrong about Cooler and Freeza's 4th from having the same characteristics the only thing the same between em is the build that's it.

Cooler has : some kinda chest armor, his head looks completely different compared to freeza, and some more stuff

But anyway 5th form freeza would be a cool what-if and it like it if he'd look like the pic i posted



When I said characteristics, I meant the basic ones. Fireza's second form is huge, has horns that point up and other things. Frieza's final form is sleek humanoid and humanoid and both he and Cooler have that characteristic. The chest armor and his head are just how he looks, but they both still have the sleek and humanoid form.

The pic that Frieza_Soldier posted is more of how 5th form Frieza would look, but with a mask.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

Why should bardock's SSJ hair look different from Goku's when their base hair looks exactly the same?

Personally i think the freeza pic u posted looks terrible for him. But hey! to each their own.

[Eback91]

I have to agree with tpk, that Frieza pic looks fugly as hell.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

When I said characteristics, I meant the basic ones. Fireza's second form is huge, has horns that point up and other things. Frieza's final form is sleek humanoid and humanoid and both he and Cooler have that characteristic. The chest armor and his head are just how he looks, but they both still have the sleek and humanoid form.

The pic that Frieza_Soldier posted is more of how 5th form Frieza would look, but with a mask.



The thing that ure describing is what i call build (bec i think its build ur describing).

But yea i agree that the freeza form i posted should be buffer but his looks should look like in the pic since cooler's looks are different from freeza's.

So if freeza's suddenly grew chest armor after it broke when he transformed into his 4th form wouldn't it look strange then?

[MysticGospel]

The thing that ure describing is what i call build (bec i think its build ur describing).

But yea i agree that the freeza form i posted should be buffer but his looks should look like in the pic since cooler's looks are different from freeza's.

So if freeza's suddenly grew chest armor after it broke when he transformed into his 4th form wouldn't it look strange then?



I'm not sure if things like horns count as build. I don't think that Frieza should get chest armor since he never had it while Cooler did, but things like the horns on his head, arms and tail I think are characteristics of the 5th form.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

I'm not sure if things like horns count as build. I don't think that Frieza should get chest armor since he never had it while Cooler did, but things like the horns on his head, arms and tail I think are characteristics of the 5th form.

He did have chest armor it just broke when he turned into his final form.

And i think horns are part of a organism's build bec horns are bone right?(i dunno for sure) and bones are what makes a organism build (i think).

[Frieza_Soldier]

Why should bardock's SSJ hair look different from Goku's when their base hair looks exactly the same?

Personally i think the freeza pic u posted looks terrible for him. But hey! to each their own.




WTF is the sense of creativity if it's just a swap?

[Frieza_Soldier]

The thing that ure describing is what i call build (bec i think its build ur describing).

But yea i agree that the freeza form i posted should be buffer but his looks should look like in the pic since cooler's looks are different from freeza's.

So if freeza's suddenly grew chest armor after it broke when he transformed into his 4th form wouldn't it look strange then?



The Pic you posted looks too Robotic and the Downward horns + half-moon hooked tail + the coloring makes it worse.

[Eback91]

The Pic you posted looks too Robotic and the Downward horns + half-moon hooked tail + the coloring makes it worse.

Your pic looks much worse.

[Frieza_Soldier]

He did have chest armor it just broke when he turned into his final form.

And i think horns are part of a organism's build bec horns are bone right?(i dunno for sure) and bones are what makes a organism build (i think).



If that was true then he would always have them, but no. His horns change meaning he can shift his skeletal structure. In a way like a spontaneous evolution.

[MysticGospel]

He did have chest armor it just broke when he turned into his final form.

And i think horns are part of a organism's build bec horns are bone right?(i dunno for sure) and bones are what makes a organism build (i think).



Since Cooler in the 4th form had chest armor, I'm assuming that he just kept it when he transformed to the 5th. And I know that Rhino horns are made from hair, but since Frieza's 1-3rd forms have horns, I assume that he just lost them when he transformed to the 4th form like how Cooler doesn't have horns either in his 4th form and grew them when he transformed to his 5th.

[Eback91]

WTF is the sense of creativity if it's just a swap?

Contradict much? That's basically what the pic you posted is.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

WTF is the sense of creativity if it's just a swap?

Same goes for ur 5th form freeza pic >_>

The reason i want 5th form freeza to look different from Cooler's is bec their 4th form looks different that's why it makes more sense if Freeza's 5ht form looked different than Cooler's

But there is no difference between Bardock and Goku the only difference is what they wear and bardocks scar+tail that's it so there's no reason to make bardock's SSJ hair to look different from Goku's just look at Goten.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Since Cooler in the 4th form had chest armor, I'm assuming that he just kept it when he transformed to the 5th. And I know that Rhino horns are made from hair, but since Frieza's 1-3rd forms have horns, I assume that he just lost them when he transformed to the 4th form like how Cooler doesn't have horns either in his 4th form and grew them when he transformed to his 5th.

Or frieza's body could just Be a Skin like a Lizards and the Ki is what makes him Grow.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Contradict much? That's basically what the pic you posted is.

Contradict much? no. I was saying that it wouldn't be very original if it was done like that for frieza but that would be his logical form...if your re-read my post.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Same goes for ur 5th form freeza pic >_>

The reason i want 5th form freeza to look different from Cooler's is bec their 4th form looks different that's why it makes more sense if Freeza's 5ht form looked different than Cooler's

I know that and it should look different but, the pic you chose wasn't what I would like to see. I only chose the cooler post because I said that would be the logical form, it just needs better alterations.


But there is no difference between Bardock and Goku the only difference is what they wear and bardocks scar+tail that's it so there's no reason to make bardock's SSJ hair to look different from Goku's just look at Goten.

I didn't say 100% changed did I? I mean, something small for detailed like the Bangs be arranged differently. Goten was made to BE a little Goku.




Orange

[The_Pumpkin_King]

And I know that Rhino horns are made from hair.


..............WHAT!? hair how come it can impale u if its made from hair? hair aint hard enough to do that...............seriously?hair? @_@


Mind=Blown

[Eback91]

Contradict much? no. I was saying that it wouldn't be very original if it was done like that for frieza but that would be his logical form...if your re-read my post.


But why would you want that if it's not creative?

[Frieza_Soldier]

But why would you want that if it's not creative?

because I already Know Spike isn't creative.

[MysticGospel]

..............WHAT!? hair how come it can impale u if its made from hair? hair aint hard enough to do that...............seriously?hair? @_@


Mind=Blown



According to Wikipedia, it's made out of Keratin which is the key structural material for hair and nails.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratin

[The_Pumpkin_King]

@Freeza

Yes i agree it should look different

And Bardock was made to BE a badass Goku : )

[Eback91]

because I already Know Spike isn't creative.

Yet you want them to be creative with SSJ Bardock? I'm not saying I don't want him to be different, I just find it funny you are against him looking the same, but are fine with that Frieza form.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

According to Wikipedia, it's made out of Keratin which is the key structural material for hair and nails.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratin



Ah u shoulda said Keratin then or atleast nails bec i can see a horn being compared to nails lol

Well u learn something new everyday

[MysticGospel]

Ah u shoulda said Keratin then or atleast nails bec i can see a horn being compared to nails lol

Well u learn something new everyday



I wasn't 100% sure myself but I remember learning something about Rhino's horns being made of hair.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

I wasn't 100% sure myself but I remember learning something about Rhino's horns being made of hair.

I never did lol but ur teacher should've said u it's Keratin then not hair lol

[MysticGospel]

My teacher may have said that, but my memory's fuzzy.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

My teacher may have said that, but my memory's fuzzy.

ah doesnt matter that much lol

[Raging_Blast_2]

Better be SSJ Bardock and SSJ2 Future Trunks.

Precisely my friend. I've been asking for these 2 for weeks. If they're both in I'll be getting RB2 first day.

[Raging_Blast_2]

I also don't see SSJ2 Trunks as something to attract fans, I want SSJ2 Trunks, but it doesn't sound like SSJ Bardock or SSJ3 Vegeta, it just doesn't sound that big.

I'm willing to bet that if GT's in, one of the what-ifs is going to be SSJ4 Broly.



Please speak for yourself dude. Plenty of people want SS2 Trunks. And a BIG no thx to SS4 Broly.

[Raging_Blast_2]

i always use Broly as a Punching Bag,ever since Budokai Tenkaichi 2.



How sad. Broly is one of the most unique DBZ characters, why not use one of the other saiyans as punching bags or one of the other characters that play and look like everyone else.

[Raging_Blast_2]

Yeah,I never play as SSj3 Broly,on LSSJ Broly.



*facepalm* I respect your opinion, but what's with all the hate for Broly? At least he's different from the rest.

[Raging_Blast_2]

when they bring ssj4 broly in that game i'm not buying that game..

They won't.

[Raging_Blast_2]

Kid Krillen Spelling., Paragus Lmao. , Tarble Rofl. , SSJ Bardock Hell yes. , SSJ Tullece Dude...who the f?



Bold.

[MysticGospel]

Please speak for yourself dude. Plenty of people want SS2 Trunks. And a BIG no thx to SS4 Broly.

I'm sure they are but I'm saying that it doesn't sound that exciting. After the Cell Saga, SSJ2 was pretty much overshadowed by SSJ3, it sounds kinda plain to advertise SSJ2 Trunks even though he's a very sinsible what-if.

I mean as absurd as SSJ3 Broly and Vegeta sounded (to me at least) it sounded exciting, but SSJ2 Trunks, it just sounds meh.

[LowFist]

I'm sure they are but I'm saying that it doesn't sound that exciting. After the Cell Saga, SSJ2 was pretty much overshadowed by SSJ3, it sounds kinda plain to advertise SSJ2 Trunks even though he's a very sinsible what-if.

I mean as absurd as SSJ3 Broly and Vegeta sounded (to me at least) it sounded exciting, but SSJ2 Trunks, it just sounds meh.



When most people thought of super saiyan 2 they thought of Gohan but I did like that one move SSJ3 Broly had where he would beat the crap out of you then run up behind you and blast you. That was pretty bad arse.

[Raging_Blast_2]

I have to agree with tpk, that Frieza pic looks fugly as hell.

Which one are you refering to? It's not the same one in which you said "That pic looks siiiick. Just adjust the horns and its perfect."? Make your mind up...

[MysticGospel]

Which one are you refering to? It's not the same one in which you said "That pic looks siiiick. Just adjust the horns and its perfect."? Make your mind up...

It's the one that looks like Cooler.

[Raging_Blast_2]

I'm sure they are but I'm saying that it doesn't sound that exciting. After the Cell Saga, SSJ2 was pretty much overshadowed by SSJ3, it sounds kinda plain to advertise SSJ2 Trunks even though he's a very sinsible what-if.

I mean as absurd as SSJ3 Broly and Vegeta sounded (to me at least) it sounded exciting, but SSJ2 Trunks, it just sounds meh.



However, Trunks would be the first SS2 in the story so he would make a big difference whereas a SS4 Broly would die somewhere in GT as do all villains. And SS2 Trunks could also be used in plenty of other what-ifs when he returns to his timeline. There's so much more you can do with him than Broly, no pun intended.

Well, at least your being honest this time saying YOU don't want SS2 Trunks instead of using this WE word you dish out too much. I can tell you now for a fact that a lot more people would take SS2 Trunks over SS4 Broly. Broly was fine as he was, and when they added a SS3 form to him I thought 'ok, that's enough now, let's hope they did this right'. And no they f-ed him up maing him weaker than Vegeta etc, imagine what they'd do to Broly SS4, Vegeta can take him too?

They can't really go wrong with Trunks SS2, especially in story mode.

[Raging_Blast_2]

It's the one that looks like Cooler.

Let him speak for himself dude...in that case fine, my bad.

[Raging_Blast_2]

When most people thought of super saiyan 2 they thought of Gohan but I did like that one move SSJ3 Broly had where he would beat the crap out of you then run up behind you and blast you. That was pretty bad arse.

Wtf? O.o

[MysticGospel]

When most people thought of super saiyan 2 they thought of Gohan but I did like that one move SSJ3 Broly had where he would beat the crap out of you then run up behind you and blast you. That was pretty bad arse.

I though of a form that was highlighted when Gohan turned SSJ2, but was immediately thrown to the side durring the Buu Saga when SSJ3 came around. At least for a good chunk of the Android Saga, SSJ was still a big deal. but during the Buu saga after Dabura (the only guy who SSJ2 was actually needed) SSJ2 became worthless.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

When most people thought of super saiyan 2 they thought of Gohan but I did like that one move SSJ3 Broly had where he would beat the crap out of you then run up behind you and blast you. That was pretty bad arse.

He doesn't beat the crap out of em in his ultimate he just hits em twice be4 doing the running kick+blast

Now meteor combination contains some major ass-kicking yea! and hercules dynamite punch

[Raging_Blast_2]

Your pic looks much worse.


I disagree, I don't like the weird horns. If Frieza went any further he would look almost identical to Cooler's final form, not like some weird Digimon.

[MysticGospel]

However, Trunks would be the first SS2 in the story so he would make a big difference whereas a SS4 Broly would die somewhere in GT as do all villains. And SS2 Trunks could also be used in plenty of other what-ifs when he returns to his timeline. There's so much more you can do with him than Broly, no pun intended.

Well, at least your being honest this time saying YOU don't want SS2 Trunks instead of using this WE word you dish out too much. I can tell you now for a fact that a lot more people would take SS2 Trunks over SS4 Broly. Broly was fine as he was, and when they added a SS3 form to him I thought 'ok, that's enough now, let's hope they did this right'. And no they f-ed him up maing him weaker than Vegeta etc, imagine what they'd do to Broly SS4, Vegeta can take him too?

They can't really go wrong with Trunks SS2, especially in story mode.



Woah, where did I say that I didn't want SSJ2 Trunks? I want him,, I even said that he's a very sensible what-if. I just said for advertisement purposes, he's not very exciting becuase of how SSJ2 was treated.

[Raging_Blast_2]

..............WHAT!? hair how come it can impale u if its made from hair? hair aint hard enough to do that...............seriously?hair? @_@


Mind=Blown



Lol, I agree. That had me scratching me head too xD.

[Raging_Blast_2]

Woah, where did I say that I didn't want SSJ2 Trunks? I want him,, I even said that he's a very sensible what-if. I just said for advertisement purposes, he's not very exciting becuase of how SSJ2 was treated.

You've been saying throughout this thread that SS4 Broly would be a more exciting option. SS2 Trunks would be more unique, since his characteristics are quite different from the rest, so giving him that extra power he would use it at his full potential and kick some major ass. Plus Broly is already too powerful, give the rest a chance. Broly and Trunks perfectly fit that bill.

[MysticGospel]

You've been saying throughout this thread that SS4 Broly would be a more exciting option. SS2 Trunks would be more unique, since his characteristics are quite different from the rest, so giving him that extra power he would use it at his full potential and kick some major ass. Plus Broly is already too powerful, give the rest a chance. Broly and Trunks perfectly fit that bill.



Exciting in terms of advertising. Like SSJ3 Broly and Vegeta as absurd as I found them sounded exciting to me. SSJ3 Trunks I think would sound exciting, but I wouldn't want him at all. SSJ4 Broly I think sounds exciting because of the Broly fanboys and the idea sounds cool. And I personally wouldn't mind him, but I prefer someone like SSJ Bardock or SSJ2 Trunks or GT Gotenks before him.

I don't think that SSJ2 Trunks would sound very attractive to those who don't already want him, mainly because of how the SSJ2 form was treated. Outside of Gohan's transformation against Cell, it was a virtually worthless form.

[Raging_Blast_2]

Exciting in terms of advertising. TheyÂ*hardly even advertise these games...andÂ*basically all DBZ fans will buy it with orÂ*withoutÂ*a SS4 Broly, in fact SS4 Goku would ensure more buyers.Â*And how would a SS4 Broly attract non-dbz fans?Â*They don'tÂ*knowÂ*who the f he is, it doesn't make a difference. GT being in alone will brings in thousands.Â*Â*Like SSJ3 Broly and Vegeta as absurd as I found them sounded exciting to me. Yea, and RB sold great right...Look at BT3 and how many that sold without being on the 360/PS3 too mind you.SSJ3 Trunks I think would sound exciting,Please god no...You know that most DBZ fans are above the age ofÂ*let's say...10. No-one gives a crap about ridiculous AF crap, in fact all it will do is reduce sales as RB did.Â*but I wouldn't want him at all. SSJ4 Broly I think sounds exciting because of the Broly fanboys and the idea sounds cool. No BrolyÂ*fans want SS4 Broly, no real fans anyway. Maybe a couple of AF kids who can't even afford the game let alone give a damn. They already mssed aroun with Broly too much anyway.Â*And I personally wouldn't mind him, ROFL, there we go. Did that feel good? Finally admiting yourself. Good on ya, laddie.Â*but I prefer someone like SSJ Bardock or SSJ2 Trunks or GT Gotenks before him. Then leave SS4 Broly behind, stop bringing him back to our heads, he should never exist in anyÂ*way shape or form. And no thx to GT Gotenks too, well not yet anyway, maybe when they remake BT3 with 200+ characters he could tand a chance but no thx at this moment.

I don't think that SSJ2 Trunks would sound very attractive to those who don't already want him, mainly because of how the SSJ2 form was treated. Outside of Gohan's transformation against Cell, it was a virtually worthless form.



Bold.

[MysticGospel]

Bold.

Way to ignore my main point as to why SSJ2 Trunks doesn't sound very attractive outside of him making sense and him deserving the form.

SSJ2 was a form that only mattered when Gohan gained it, afterwards it was thrown to the side because it was virtually worthless against everyone but Dabura (Goku and Vegeta were able to take down Yakon and Pui Pui without going SSJ, yeah Goku went SSJ against Yakon, but he didn't need to).

SSJ, SSJ3 and SSJ4 were more attractive forms than SSJ2 and while adding SSJ2 Trunks is a nice what-if choice, it's not exactly something that sounds like you can use to attract people to the game. Adding something like SSJ Bardock or SSJ3 Broly and Vegeta in RB on the other hand is.

[Raging_Blast_2]

Way to ignore my main point as to why SSJ2 Trunks doesn't sound very attractive outside of him making sense and him deserving the form.

SSJ2 was a form that only mattered when Gohan gained it, afterwards it was thrown to the side because it was virtually worthless against everyone but Dabura (Goku and Vegeta were able to take down Yakon and Pui Pui without going SSJ, yeah Goku went SSJ against Yakon, but he didn't need to).

SSJ, SSJ3 and SSJ4 were more attractive forms than SSJ2 and while adding SSJ2 Trunks is a nice what-if choice, it's not exactly something that sounds like you can use to attract people to the game. Adding something like SSJ Bardock or SSJ3 Broly and Vegeta in RB on the other hand is.



I already said that Trunks would be the FIRST SS2, giving the game a twist so yes it would be a big deal. WTF? How is a SS Bardock more EXCITING than SS2 Trunks since your determining this on power which is why you want more SS4's. I'd take a SS2 over a SS anyday. And what kind of people are they trying to ATTRACT? DBZ fans will buy the game anyway, as long as it's good-ish and GT is in, no AF is a plus. A lot more people would be happier with SS2 Trunks than SS4 Broly. Also, if your refering to non-dbz fans, wtf do they care about SS4's? They don't even know what one is. And to your last point, how many copies did RB sell again? Those 2 characters pretty much lost them sales from real DBZ fans. It's time for Spike to think and be mature instead of giving the kids useless AF characters, most DBZ fans are 18+ mind you.

[MysticGospel]

I already said that Trunks would be the FIRST SS2, giving the game a twist so yes it would be a big deal. WTF? How is a SS Bardock more EXCITING than SS2 Trunks since your determining this on power which is why you want more SS4's. I'd take a SS2 over a SS anyday. And what kind of people are they trying to ATTRACT? DBZ fans will buy the game anyway, as long as it's good-ish and GT is in, no AF is a plus. A lot more people would be happier with SS2 Trunks than SS4 Broly. Also, if your refering to non-dbz fans, wtf do they care about SS4's? They don't even know what one is. And to your last point, how many copies did RB sell again? Those 2 characters pretty much lost them sales from real DBZ fans. It's time for Spike to think and be mature instead of giving the kids useless AF characters, most DBZ fans are 18+ mind you.

Because it would be a great twist for Bardock, who had plenty of reasons to want to kill Frieza to actually kill Frieza by turning SSJ and killing him.

And you're not understanding my point with SSJ4 Broly. Broly is pretty much the ultimate Saiyan and I'm sure people (especially his fanboys) are curious as to how he would be if he attained forms beyond SSJ (like SSJ3 for example) and SSJ4 wouldn't be unlikely since they added SSJ3 Broly in the previous game, hell, they would add SSJ4 Vegeta as well if he wasn't already in GT.

Also, I'm sure that not everybody would want to buy a game that has far less characters than BT3, Spike probably thinks that they need another way to hook as many people as possible, and what's better than by giving a popular character another form? And Broly, I'm pretty sure is high up there.

[BloodAlpha]

All we need the 6 characters to be are

GT Goten
GT SS Goten
GT Gotenks
GT SS Gotenks
GT SS3 Gotenks
SS Bardock

Now that would be my ideal list and that gives you 2 what if characters as well.

[MysticGospel]

Why would you want GT Goten and GT Gotenks but not GT Trunks?

[BloodAlpha]

The last thing we need is another adult trunks, just make him a costume for sword trunks. The question you should be asking instead is, why do we never get an adult version of Goten, yet multiple Gohan's? Both are Goku's sons.

I rather GT Goten, then anymore Gohan's.

We have had

Kid Gohan
Young Gohan
Adult Gohan
Mystic Gohan
GT Saiyaman
Future Gohan

Compared to

Kid Goten

It's overkill and that's not even counting transformations.

[MysticGospel]

The last thing we need is another adult trunks, just make him a costume for sword trunks. The question you should be asking instead is, why do we never get an adult version of Goten, yet multiple Gohan's? Both are Goku's sons.

I rather GT Goten, then anymore Gohan's.

We have had

Kid Gohan
Young Gohan
Adult Gohan
Mystic Gohan
GT Saiyaman
Future Gohan

Compared to

Kid Goten

It's overkill and that's not even counting transformations.

GT Trunks and Future Trunks are 2 completely different characters. And we probably never got Adult Goten because he didn't do anything. While all of the Gohans you listed with the exception of GT.Saiyaman did something important and are important. All Adult Goten did was watch Goku fight Uub and get possessed by Baby.

[Eback91]

Let him speak for himself dude...in that case fine, my bad.

He was correct, I was referring to that one.

Â*

I disagree, I don't like the weird horns. If Frieza went any further hewould look almost identical to Cooler's final form, not like some weirdDigimon.

I agree on the horns, but I like everything else. I'd rather have it more unique looking, but to each his own.