How SSJ3 Broly / Vegeta SHOULD have been:

[Frieza_Soldier]

Watch the Beginning animation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g-dHflOes8&feature=related

RB should have:

These textured graphic this Aura this destruction Notice how Epic Broly and Vegeta's models are compared to Raging Blast's Crap ones.IMO Raging blast's models had WAY too much hair, Broly was a Stiff doll in terms of emotion nor did he care about his new power.

This Dragon battler Trailer presented them PERFECTLY and how the models SHOULD LOOK LIKE

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Another Example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU7aT_PY9-8

[Frieza_Soldier]

he also needs more Quotes instead of Recycling crap.

No more "my name is Goku and I'm from earth.." The only person he should say that to is Raditz and Broly's Base form.

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Budokai 3 was bad enough with goku saying

"Heh ha I'm so excited!" to EVERYONE being unconscious of who he's up against.

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With SSJ3 Broly it should Be:

http://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/14/52/26/70/img_0110.jpg

Broly:"..My Overwhelming power has peaked beyond ANYTHING you can ever stand up to Kakarot..your yells in agony will echo throughout the atmosphere as I tear you limb from limb and vaporize every thing in your body once and for all!!! hehehahaha!..."

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http://data28.sevenload.com/data75/slcom/rp/tv/oglsog/jenzlpmjnslc.jpg~/Dragon-Ball-Z-SSJ3-Goku.jpg

Goku: "No...No!!!...your power is...to much for this planet to handle...I can't let you leave here alive...you will NOT put the universe in jeopardy, I'll have to utilize ALL of my power and destroy you once and for all to extinguish this rage you have for me...HERE'S NO TURNING BACK!!!"

[ssjgohan2009]

but broly hair need by yellow only not green ni ssj3Â* only in movie 8 was broly hair green hsi dad made that but by movie 10 broly ssj lssj hair was yellow his dad not controlling him so can you pslese make broly hair yellow spike he not ben cantorled so wya his hair green

[ssjgohan2009]

goten trunks no who young gohan is not ncie to meet you that need to be fix inÂ* goten ddi sya nci eot meet you trunks dont need to say the some thing when gohan ssj talknig to frieza heÂ*Â* am gohan and ma ssj then freiza whatÂ* the bart ssj no not goku sun toÂ*

[Kokos]

With SSJ3 Broly it should Be:http://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/14/52/26/70/img_0110.jpg

Broly:"..now at the hands of a God you will taste the returning power.....Now I will Paint this entire landscape with your blood Kakarot!!!"



I dunno, that doesn't sound like something Broly would say at all.

[GF9000000Returns]

The only two things I liked about SSJ3 Vegeta is his Galick Gun AND his freaking theme!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_sFXh18sL4 (EPIC CHOICE FOR HIM!!!)

[KevinX]

You know that theme is from Goku and Piccolo vs Raditz too right. xD

[Frieza_Soldier]

but broly hair need by yellow only not green ni ssj3Â* only in movie 8 was broly hair green hsi dad made that but by movie 10 broly ssj lssj hair was yellow his dad not controlling him so can you pslese make broly hair yellow spike he not ben cantorled so wya his hair green

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/knookuub/Super-Saiyan-3-Broly.gif
You mean like this:Above

[Frieza_Soldier]

The only two things I liked about SSJ3 Vegeta is his Galick Gun AND his freaking theme!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_sFXh18sL4 (EPIC CHOICE FOR HIM!!!)

I dunno, I didn't really Feel that theme was for me.Try this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf3ipmKPDTQ&feature=related

[Frieza_Soldier]

I dunno, that doesn't sound like something Broly would say at all.

Well I wanted him to sound smarter then he was in the movies. I also tired of hearing him say: "I am a devil!" "Or my power is rising" blah blah over and over... + Broly would have to have comeback to life to be SSJ3.

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"I will Paint this entire landscape with your blood "

He does say something like that in Raging blast

[Kokos]

Well I wanted him to sound smarter then he was in the movies.

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"I will Paint this entire landscape with your blood "

He does say that in Raging blast




Wow really? When does he say it? He sounds like a wannabe Salvador Dali.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Wow really? When does he say it? He sounds like a wannabe Salvador Dali.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMtPymaJ8go

I wasn't exact but, here is what I was referring to.

Note* Goku's failed response to insult.

[KevinX]

Actually Broly SSJ3 says..

Kakarot... I'll bathe the arena in your blood first.

Against Base Goku.

Against SSJs Goku he says

C'mon this is where you die.

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And when Broly wins he says ...

Kakarot, it's all over for you now.Â*Â*Â*Â* <- I love that

[Frieza_Soldier]

Actually Broly SSJ3 says..

Kakarot... I'll bathe the arena in your blood first.

I know that now after I checked, but I couldn't remember the line exactly when I wrote it yesterday what I thought he said but I knew it was something along that line.

Against Base Goku.

Against SSJs Goku he says

C'mon this is where you die.

(Recycled -_-)


And when Broly wins he says ...

Kakarot, it's all over for you now.Â*Â*Â*Â* <- I love that

It would be cooler if he says that and blasts the body.



Orange.

[Kokos]

Wow... I didn't know that at all.Â*BrolyÂ*is so poetic in Raging Blast. Perfect proof that videogames are art.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Wow... I didn't know that at all.Â*BrolyÂ*is so poetic in Raging Blast. Perfect proof that videogames are art.

I edited what I wrote for him, as a dialogue suggestion. how is it?

[Kokos]

I edited what I wrote for him, as a dialogue suggestion. how is it?

I don't see your reply with the dialogue suggestion... weird, it isn't a Youtube link right? Because I can't watch Youtube vids right now since my internet is crappy and will remain like this for at least a week.

EDIT: Nvm.

[Kokos]

With SSJ3 Broly it should Be:

http://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/14/52/26/70/img_0110.jpg

Broly:"..My Overwhelming power has peaked beyond ANYTHING you can ever stand up to Kakarot..your yells in agony will echo throughout the atmosphere as I tear you limb from limb and vaporize every thing in your body once and for all!!! hehehahaha!..."

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http://data28.sevenload.com/data75/slcom/rp/tv/oglsog/jenzlpmjnslc.jpg~/Dragon-Ball-Z-SSJ3-Goku.jpg

Goku: "No...No!!!...your power is...to much for this planet to handle...I can't let you leave here alive...you will NOT put the universe in jeopardy, I'll have to utilize ALL of my power and destroy you once and for all to extinguish this rage you have for me...HERE'S NO TURNING BACK!!!"



Wow Frieza_Soldier, nice quotes. I especially like this: "your yells in agony will echo throughout the atmosphere as I tear you limb from limb and vaporize every thing in your body once and for all!!!" Epic.

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Ever thought of becoming a poet?

[Raging_Blast_2]

To be honest those sort of lines don't reallyÂ*suit Broly and would kinda ruin his image. He comes across as a ******/dumbass really, xD. I think he should stick to 'KAKAROTTTTTTTTTTTTT'.

[Frieza_Soldier]

To be honest those sort of lines don't reallyÂ*suit Broly and would kinda ruin his image. He comes across as a ******/dumbass really, xD. I think he should stick to 'KAKAROTTTTTTTTTTTTT'.

I disagree, I want the what-if to feel serious, and Broly can say more then the game makes him seem.

Budokai 3, ALL he said was Kakarot.

He needs SOME concluding dialogue to actually progress instead of the circle Of Goku beats him, Comes back, Kakarot!, again dies, comes back KAKAROT.

It's stupid really. EvenÂ* Super Majin's intelligence increased from every form he took.

You can Still be insane but have something to say to someone. Broly isn't a 2 year-old learning new words (as Budokai 3 makes him) Nor is he a genius, but I'd rather hear him say something more then recycled quotes and Kakarot for everying. I personally think him saying Goku's sayian name mindlessly ruins his image personally.

His haters hate him because of it.

Vic's Voice as Broly is cool, and I'd like to hear more then his least favorite lines.

[Raging_Blast_2]

I disagree, I want the what-if to feel serious, and Broly can say more then the game makes him seem.

Budokai 3, ALL he said was Kakarot.

He needs SOME concluding dialogue to actually progress instead of the circle Of Goku beats him, Comes back, Kakarot!, again dies, comes back KAKAROT.

It's stupid really. Lol, that's what Broly is tho, stupid.Â*They are staying true to the movies, Broly is the Big burly stupid bully of DBZ in other words whose sole purpose is to kill KAKAROTTTTTTT.Â*EvenÂ* Super Majin's intelligence increased from every form he took. Super Buu is actually quite intelligent, even at his base form. Watch the anime again and you'll see what I mean.



Bold.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Wow Frieza_Soldier, nice quotes. I especially like this: "your yells in agony will echo throughout the atmosphere as I tear you limb from limb and vaporize every thing in your body once and for all!!!" Epic.

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Ever thought of becoming a poet?



Personally I do like to write things like that.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Lol, that's what Broly is tho, stupid.Â*They are staying true to the movies, Broly is the Big burly stupid bully of DBZ in other words whose sole purpose is to kill KAKAROTTTTTTT

I never said Super buu was dumb, I only meant that through out his forms his conversation skills matured.


Lol, that's what Broly is tho, stupid.

That sounds like fans want him to be a joke and haters don't take him seriously.Â*

And Why do you have to automatically insult me when I calmly answered your reply?




They are staying true to the movies,

Broly did not say Kakarot the ENTIRE movie. From what I remember he hardly said it after he turned Legendary but he said things like: "Lay dead at my feet" to Gohan and "Mercy? is that another word for coffin"

I'd rather broly be portrayed as a cruel person that no one can stop, rather then only a bull that will charge at the site of kakarot. In the movie Broly Is cruel especially when blew up the alien planet and said "oops, did I just blow it up?" with a smile.

or when he crushed his dad in the saiyan ship.

Broly is the Big burly stupid bully of DBZ in other words whose sole purpose is to kill KAKAROTTTTTTT

He can still have a brain to do it.Â*

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(Orange replied)

[Raging_Blast_2]

I never said Super buu was dumb, I only meant that through out his forms his conversation skills matured.


Lol, that's what Broly is tho, stupid.

That sounds like fans want him to be a joke and haters don't take him seriously.Â*Haters??? I'm a HUGE Broly fan, he's my favourite movie villain. But I like him just the way he is, the big dumb bully.

And Why do you have to automatically insult me when I calmly answered your reply? I insulted you??? WTF? Are you serious? Jeez go back and read my post in no way shape or form did I insult you goddamit.

Only Broly fanboys do that and they irritate everyone. ?





They are staying true to the movies,

Broly did not say Kakarot the ENTIRE movie. From what I remember he hardly said it after he turned Legendary but he said things like: "Lay dead at my feet" to Gohan and "Mercy? is that another word for coffin" He wasn't as poetic as you make out or as you'd like him to be. He basically says 'you will die at my feet' and stuff like that. But mainly just KAKAROTTTTTTT.

I'd rather broly be portrayed as a cruel person that no one can stop, rather then only a bull that will charge at the site of kakarot. But that's waht he is lol,Â*are you questioning Akira's creation? Broly SOLE purpose is to killÂ*KAKAROTTTTTT.Â*In the movie Broly Is cruel especially when blew up the alien planet and said "oops, did I just blow it up?" with a smile. Yes, but he never said 'I will create a painting ofÂ*yourÂ*gravestoneÂ*using nothing more than the blood beating out of your heart' or anything of that sort. He was a wreckless menace, he doesn't require poetry of that magnitude.

or when he crushed his dad in the saiyan ship.

Broly is the Big burly stupid bully of DBZ in other words whose sole purpose is to kill KAKAROTTTTTTT

He can still have a brain to do it.Â*

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(Orange replied)




Bold.

[Frieza_Soldier]

In other words broly is a boring, one-sided villain with no character development what so ever as you put it.

The whole "paint" line was a mistake from me not remembering his exact words nothing more.

[Raging_Blast_2]

In other words broly is a boring, one-sided villain with no character development what so ever as you put it.

No, lol. Broly = Big burly bully whose sole purpose is to kill KAKAROTTTT. How's that boring?

[MysticGospel]

Broly only really started saying Kakarot like crazy after the first movie, in the first movie he spoke "normally"

From the first movie, I see Broly as a psycho who loves destruction. He's not stupid, but he's not Freiza either so I think thatÂ*

"My Overwhelming power has peaked beyond ANYTHING you can ever standup to Kakarot..your yells in agony will echo throughout the atmosphereas I tear you limb from limb and vaporize every thing in your body onceand for all!!! hehehahaha!..."Â*

Should be turned to something like:

"Kakarot, my power is now beyond anything you can stand up to. Your screams will echo throughout the cosmos as you are torn limb from limb."

or maybe:

"Kakarot, with this power, I will destroy everything, starting with you, hahahaha!

[Frieza_Soldier]

No, lol. Broly = Big burly bully whose sole purpose is to kill KAKAROTTTT. How's that boring?

It's always the same with him. He could be a little more entertaining with his lines. Frieza is very entertaining and interesting to listen too and above his base form he is a brute in his own way, but too much for broly.

Oozaru Vegeta - is a brute who's purpose was to kill kakarot, but still had enough of a brain to spit out entertaining dialogue.

I still believe broly is smarter then you make him out to be. Not a genius, but not brain dead.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Broly only really started saying Kakarot like crazy after the first movie, in the first movie he spoke "normally"

From the first movie, I see Broly as a psycho who loves destruction. He's not stupid, but he's not Freiza either so I think thatÂ*

"My Overwhelming power has peaked beyond ANYTHING you can ever standup to Kakarot..your yells in agony will echo throughout the atmosphereas I tear you limb from limb and vaporize every thing in your body onceand for all!!! hehehahaha!..."Â*

Should be turned to something like:

"Kakarot, my power is now beyond anything you can stand up to. Your screams will echo throughout the cosmos as you are torn limb from limb."

or maybe:

"Kakarot, with this power, I will destroy everything, starting with you, hahahaha!



"Kakarot, with this power, I will destroy everything, starting with you, hahahaha!"

I like the second line. This Line above sounds like something he could say at any time not really made it dramatically clear that his power sky rocketed.

[MysticGospel]

That's true, I liked the second line more as well.

[Kokos]

All this talk makes me wonder, whatÂ*is Broly's favourite food?

[GF9000000Returns]

All this talk makes me wonder, whatÂ*is Broly's favourite food?



CARROTS! :P

[Frieza_Soldier]

All this talk makes me wonder, whatÂ*is Broly's favourite food?



Ka- Carrots and some Kaka- Juice

[Raging_Blast_2]

Ka- Carrots and some Kaka- Juice

Kaka-Juice? IÂ*heard his favourite football player is Kaka, in fact Broly is in South Africa as we speak getting ready for the final group games.Â*

[ssjgohan2009]

broly is ocol bad guy is any badÂ* guy is dum it bio broly he dotn talk he loosk dum he weker then broly

[Frieza_Soldier]

Kaka-Juice? IÂ*heard his favourite football player is Kaka, in fact Broly is in South Africa as we speak getting ready for the final group games.

Vegeta better have the Kaka-Cola he ordered for the team.

[Frieza_Soldier]

broly is ocol bad guy is any badÂ* guy is dum it bio broly he dotn talk he loosk dum he weker then broly

Bio- Broly is out of the question

[Raging_Blast_2]

Vegeta better have the Kaka-Cola he ordered for the team.

I just want him to have his frickin Badman pink shirt! That would be epic imo. I'd buy the game just for that.

[allfornot2]

I just want him to have his frickin Badman pink shirt! That would be epic imo. I'd buy the game just for that.

I wouldn't use any other costume choice for Vegeta if that was in.

[Kokos]

True true... now imagine SSJ3 Broly in the badman shirt. Best character ever.

[Frieza_Soldier]

True true... now imagine SSJ3 Broly in the badman shirt. Best character ever.

Lets Get Back on Topic:

I'm sure you will agree with Me when I could say, Broly's moves need more Impct.

I felt that his moves were chosen better then SSJ3 Vegeta's by far but..

The should be more menacing:

http://dragonball.neoseeker.com/w/i/dragonball/thumb/9/9b/Gigantic_Meteor.png/150px-Gigantic_Meteor.pnghttp://i.ytimg.com/vi/jBTpiDo-c58/2.jpg

[Kokos]

That doesn't onlyÂ*count for Broly though. If his attacks need more explosions like that then other attacks need them as well.

[allfornot2]

That doesn't onlyÂ*count for Broly though. If his attacks need more explosions like that then other attacks need them as well.

I think he means Broly's attacks in particular need to be amped up in comparison to the other characters. I mean Broly's the legendary Super Saiyan, when you play as him you really need to feel like you're playing as some God-like being of destruction, and bigger more devastating explosions would go a long way in accomplishing that.

[Kokos]

I think he means Broly's attacks in particular need to be amped up in comparison to the other characters. I mean Broly's the legendary Super Saiyan, when you play as him you really need to feel like you're playing as some God-like being of destruction, and bigger more devastating explosions would go a long way in accomplishing that.

Well that's true but shouldn't we do the same for Kid buu for example? He's really powerful too and made some big explosions.

PS: Not to start an argument, but I always thought everyone who is at leastÂ*SSJ2Â*and in top shape can defeat Broly.

Man please don't argue about this people! =(

[allfornot2]

Well that's true but shouldn't we do the same for Kid buu for example? He's really powerful too and made some big explosions.

PS: Not to start an argument, but I always thought everyone who is at leastÂ*SSJ2Â*and in top shape can defeat Broly.

Man please don't argue about this people! =(



Well I can't really argue against bigger explosions for people like Kid Buu and other insanely powerful characters.

And yeah, I think most SSj 2's could take Broly. It's just that Broly's got the reputation of being nigh-invincible with a lot of fans, and I don't see a problem with playing that up at least in a video game.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Well that's true but shouldn't we do the same for Kid buu for example? He's really powerful too and made some big explosions.

PS: Not to start an argument, but I always thought everyone who is at leastÂ*SSJ2Â*and in top shape can defeat Broly.

Man please don't argue about this people! =(



No no, I agree with you.

And Yes. ALL characters need an emphasis on their attacks, but SSJ3 Broly's in particular should have like some rumble in the controller when you do your attacks.

SSJ3 Broly was SO hyped up he should at least Feel as Powerful as He was implied to be, did you watch the video links?

[Frieza_Soldier]

Well I can't really argue against bigger explosions for people like Kid Buu and other insanely powerful characters.

And yeah, I think most SSj 2's could take Broly. It's just that Broly's got the reputation of being nigh-invincible with a lot of fans, and I don't see a problem with playing that up at least in a video game.



I personally think Super Perfect Cell can beat him.

[Kokos]

No no, I agree with you.

And Yes. ALL characters need an emphasis on their attacks, but SSJ3 Broly's in particular should have like some rumble in the controller when you do your attacks.

SSJ3 Broly was SO hyped up he should at least Feel as Powerful as He was implied to be, did you watch the video links?



Which video links?

[Frieza_Soldier]

Which video links?

First page, my first post

[Raging_Blast_2]

Well I can't really argue against bigger explosions for people like Kid Buu and other insanely powerful characters.

And yeah, I think most SSj 2's could take Broly. It's just that Broly's got the reputation of being nigh-invincible with a lot of fans, and I don't see a problem with playing that up at least in a video game.



Well considering he EASILY took down a weak-ish SS2 Gohan I'd think he'd be about SS2 Goku/Majin Vegeta's level at their peak.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Well considering he EASILY took down a weak-ish SS2 Gohan I'd think he'd be about SS2 Goku/Majin Vegeta's level at their peak.

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[ProjectLDV]

With the current system Spike has Broly will never truly be Broly. He shouldn't be some combo beast, he should have emphasis on his smashes & throws(which he should have a ton of). Based on Movie 8 we know Broly can at least say something interesting, so the constant Kakarot is annoying.

& we've had crazy explosions since the Namek Saga Broly doesn't need special treatment. Give each attack some unique explosion, energy domes & tint the screen the colour of the attack & we have perfect effects provided damage is seen on the stage.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Based on Movie 8 we know Broly can at least say something interesting, so the constant Kakarot is annoying.
Finally someone else who agrees.


& we've had crazy explosions since the Namek Saga Broly doesn't need special treatment. Give each attack some unique explosion, energy domes & tint the screen the colour of the attack & we have perfect effects provided damage is seen on the stage.

Considering how they emphasized on broly going SSJ3 at least his attacks should have that if Spike was gonna give us no explosions.



Orange

[Kokos]

First page, my first post

Ah OK, unfortunately my internet sucks and I can't watch any movies at all (and pictures take ages to load).

It will be fixed on Saturday, then I'll take a look.

[BardockRulez]

No, lol. Broly = Big burly bully whose sole purpose is to kill KAKAROTTTT. How's that boring?

Omega2040 can give you 3,000,000 reasons on why that's boring.

[Kokos]

Omega2040?

[BardockRulez]

Go on YouTube and type in Omega2040.....He's one of the few people who still uploads

Bt3 videos to this date....In most of his videos,you can tell when he's hating on Broly,like in the Raging Blast item guide that shows Cell vs SSj3 Broly,and Cell had the Brick Wall item.

And I also mentioned SSj2 Gohan(adult) being weaker than Broly,and he bashes me foor even mentioning it.

He also mentioned in his comments that he dislikes Broly because of his poor character development.

[Kokos]

Go on YouTube and type in Omega2040.....He's one of the few people who still uploads

Bt3 videos to this date....In most of his videos,you can tell when he's hating on Broly,like in the Raging Blast item guide that shows Cell vs SSj3 Broly,and Cell had the Brick Wall item.

And I also mentioned SSj2 Gohan(adult) being weaker than Broly,and he bashes me foor even mentioning it.

He also mentioned in his comments that he dislikes Broly because of his poor character development.



Ah yes I know about him. Watched a few vids of him a long time ago.

I understand why he dislikes Broly but why does he hate people who like him?

What are his vids about nowadays?

Â*

[BrolyJustSSJ]

Go on YouTube and type in Omega2040.....He's one of the few people who still uploads

Bt3 videos to this date....In most of his videos,you can tell when he's hating on Broly,like in the Raging Blast item guide that shows Cell vs SSj3 Broly,and Cell had the Brick Wall item.

And I also mentioned SSj2 Gohan(adult) being weaker than Broly,and he bashes me foor even mentioning it.

He also mentioned in his comments that he dislikes Broly because of his poor character development.



??????? I didn't know someone can hate on one DBZ character so much.

[BardockRulez]

He doesn't hate people whp like him,I just think he thinks that people who think Adult SSj2 Gohan is weaker than Broly are Idiots for thinking that.

Did Gohan go SSj2 against Broly in Broly Second Coming? I read some where that he went SSj2 but the producers forgot to add the lightning.

[BrolyJustSSJ]

He doesn't hate people whp like him,I just think he thinks that people who think Adult SSj2 Gohan is weaker than Broly are Idiots for thinking that.

Did Gohan go SSj2 against Broly in Broly Second Coming? I read some where that he went SSj2 but the producers forgot to add the lightning.



Gohan did go SSJ2 with no lightning in the movieÂ*and got man handled by Broly. Gohan is still my favorite character in DBZ right next to Broly.

[Kokos]

I thought it was officially stated he was SSJ2. Although a really weak one.

[BardockRulez]

I tell him that it was stated that Gohan went SSj2 against Broly in the second movie,and heÂ*freakin' criticize's meÂ*andÂ*says he was SSj.

That's the reason I don't like him,heÂ*underestimates and always hates onÂ*Broly.Â*

Â*

[BrolyJustSSJ]

I tell him that it was stated that Gohan went SSj2 against Broly in the second movie,and heÂ*freakin' criticize's meÂ*andÂ*says he was SSj.

That's the reason I don't like him,heÂ*underestimates and always hates onÂ*Broly.Â*

Â*



**** that ***** Omega.

[BardockRulez]

**** that ***** Omega.

I'm with you on that one http://www.gokuscorner.com/PhArketypes/ext/tinymce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-cool.gif

[Kokos]

Does he have a good reputation? On Youtube I mean.

[Eback91]

Regardless on his opinion on Broly, I enjoy watching Omega's videos, like the top 10, moveset display, etc. He comes off a little pretentious sometimes though I'll admit.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Omega2040 can give you 3,000,000 reasons on why that's boring.

I don't like Omega2040 because he hates on people disagreeing with him on characters he likes and assumes your immature, but I agree with him on the Broly matter about him needing better character development.

[Frieza_Soldier]

He doesn't hate people whp like him,I just think he thinks that people who think Adult SSj2 Gohan is weaker than Broly are Idiots for thinking that.

Did Gohan go SSj2 against Broly in Broly Second Coming? I read some where that he went SSj2 but the producers forgot to add the lightning.



I read that too and I believe it. Gohan wouldn't go SSJ1 when he knows how strong broly is.

[LeviJ]

I totaly agree broly needs moreline and gokus lines in dbzbt3 and dbz3 got really annoying. But broly didnt have green hair it was the attack making his hair turn green

[Raging_Blast_2]

He doesn't hate people whp like him,I just think he thinks that people who think Adult SSj2 Gohan is weaker than Broly are Idiots for thinking that.

Did Gohan go SSj2 against Broly in Broly Second Coming? I read some where that he went SSj2 but the producers forgot to add the lightning.



Yes. Why do people always ask this, it's plain obvious Gohan was SS2. You could tell just by looking at his facial expressions and agression, also the 1 string of hair going down his forehead. Yes, Gohan was quite weak as a SS2, but I wouldn't be surprised if Broly (at Legendary SS) could match Majin Vegeta/SS2 Goku if not defeat themÂ*because he took down Gohan with ease as would they.

[Raging_Blast_2]

I read that too and I believe it. Gohan wouldn't go SSJ1 when he knows how strong broly is.

Exactly, especially when the lives of Goten/Trunks/Videl were at stake. He would fight at his max (at the time) because Broly wasn't playing around.

[Raging_Blast_2]

Gohan did go SSJ2 with no lightning in the movieÂ*and got man handled by Broly. Gohan is still my favorite character in DBZ right next to Broly.

Yup, Broly (at the time) >= Majin Vegeta/Goku SS2Â*>> Gohan SS2

Â*

[MysticGospel]

I think that SSJ2 from the Cell Games at full power could take on Broly from Second Coming becuse in Second Coming, Gohan was weaker, and was actually able to fight back a bit by breaking free of Broly's grasp, and even being able to run away from him, and if not him then Majin Vegeta or SSJ2 Goku since they surpassed SSJ2 Gohan from the Cell Games.

[BardockRulez]

I don't like Omega2040 because he hates on people disagreeing with him on characters he likes and assumes your immature, but I agree with him on the Broly matter about him needing better character development.


True.

[Frieza_Soldier]

True.

I'd rather Dialouge be deep then cheap one-liners like Budokai 3.

[Exceptid]

Broly is an ignorant character so obviously everything he says is going to echo the ignorance he possesses.Â*

I could imagine him saying something like this at best "If you're Kakarot, then you're dead, CAN YOU FEEL YOUR END APPROACHING!"Â*

Nothing so long that it devours an entire 20 minutes, but packs enough power in it that you aren't bored to tears before the match begins.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Broly is an ignorant character so obviously everything he says is going to echo the ignorance he possesses.Â*

I could imagine him saying something like this at best "If you're Kakarot, then you're dead, CAN YOU FEEL YOUR END APPROACHING!"Â*

Nothing so long that it devours an entire 20 minutes, but packs enough power in it that you aren't bored to tears before the match begins.



Broly IS capable of saying more then 1 sentence OVER and OVER like in Burst Limit or Budokai 3.

Re watch his movies, he CAN and DOES say sadistic and interesting things.

"If you'd just let me kill you all before, you wouldn't be dealing with this pain now. You're all a complete and utter waste of Saiyan blood!"

I'm tired of Broly being so Boring and annoying, HE IS also arrogant to have you all forgotten?.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Broly was his most annoying in BL were 90% of all he said was a whinny kakarot making him sound like a big baby.

[BardockRulez]

No,that is B3,where all of his lines were:

Kakarot,Kakarot......KAKAROOOOOOOOOTTTTTT!!!!!!!!! !!

I AM A GGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You your nothing

I'm make this quick and painless(not sure about this one)

Â*

[Frieza_Soldier]

which makes him more dense and one sided.

[keronshb]

If anyone actually remembers Movie 8 he was talking like an actual human being in both Legendary and Base/SSJ mode.Â* He got the whole LOL KAKAROT thing from Movie 10 and people take his speech mannerisms from that movie over the ones in Movie 8 for some reason.

[Frieza_Soldier]

If anyone actually remembers Movie 8 he was talking like an actual human being in both Legendary and Base/SSJ mode.Â* He got the whole LOL KAKAROT thing from Movie 10 and people take his speech mannerisms from that movie over the ones in Movie 8 for some reason.

Finally someone who agrees. Why is Broly always portrayed as the green haired one? I'm sure frozen for 7 years gave him time to work on his vocabulary. As I said before Broly IS capable of saying more and can be more likable to serious character fans if he sounded more arrogant the Legend he is.

[allfornot2]

If anyone actually remembers Movie 8 he was talking like an actual human being in both Legendary and Base/SSJ mode.Â* He got the whole LOL KAKAROT thing from Movie 10 and people take his speech mannerisms from that movie over the ones in Movie 8 for some reason.

And that really blows, cause Broly had some pretty awesome quotes from that movie my personal favorite being

Vegeta: "I am the Prince of All Saiyans!"Â*

Broly: "Then please, do your best to make me bow before you."

If that doesn't end up being the pre-match exchange between Broly and Vegeta then I will be severely disappointed.

[Frieza_Soldier]

And that really blows, cause Broly had some pretty awesome quotes from that movie my personal favorite being

Vegeta: "I am the Prince of All Saiyans!"Â*

Broly: "Then please, do your best to make me bow before you."

If that doesn't end up being the pre-match exchange between Broly and Vegeta then I will be severely disappointed.



In BT3 I liked when he says "Scum is scum after all.."

It would be cool if Broly could also say:

"You Will feel the impact of this planet's implosion from my endless on growing power..."

or..."HEHEEHEH....has your power has reached it limit...unfortunately for you... MINE HAS NONE!"

or "Handicap? Is that another word for coffin?" as he did in the first movie he was in.

"Kakarot....this time I will scatter your remains all across the universe..."

"your power is not even visible compared to my own"

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I mean when Vic speaks as him in a deep voice it's just as epic. He shouldn't have to be loud all the time.

[allfornot2]

or "Handicap? Is that another word for coffin?" as he did in the first movie he was in.






That was another favorite of mine. Always makes me laugh.

[Frieza_Soldier]

It would be Epic if SSJ3 Broly could say:

"Even in 100 life times you will NEVER surpass me..."

"Don't worry, you'll have ALL of eternity in the afterlife to watch me end all existence"

"Come at me with ALL your might then...no matter how force less it is.."

"I am the pinnacle of our race...I am a GOD...you are no where near it...wehhahaha"

"Wehehehaa! ....Devastating isn't it?"

"Cowering in fear....? hmhmhm Squirming only makes it more fun." (could be used for a cell quote as well)


"I Haven't even shown you half of my power!!"

"Hmhmhmhm....You won't survive my Omega blaster!"


"Don't Worry there won't be anything for you to get back up for after I devastate what's left of this weak planet."


It would be cool if in the View Mode where you see the models, you can also hear and reply their quotes as you could in Soul caliber 2,3

[Frieza_Soldier]

SSJ3 Vegeta needs some tune ups if he stays, SSJ3 Broly I have nothing for since I hate him more but he could at least be interesting to listen to.

[NathanCX]

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/knookuub/Super-Saiyan-3-Broly.gif
You mean like this:Above

Wow I haven't seen that picture since I made it back in the Atari days... Still want it as an alt SO badly

[Frieza_Soldier]

I doubt spike will make them any better, they just have no imagination

[NathanCX]

I doubt spike will make them any better, they just have no imagination

... **** off.

[Frieza_Soldier]

... **** off.



what? Butthurt now?

[NathanCX]

what? Butthurt now?

No, your ignorance, arrogance and immaturity are starting to test my patience.

[ProjectLDV]

No, your ignorance, arrogance and immaturity are starting to test my patience.

How is he ignorant, arrogant or immature when you were the first to fire off the "F" bullet?

Â*

[GF9000000Returns]

You definetly got a sailor mouth, do ya, Nathan?

[Frieza_Soldier]

No, your ignorance, arrogance and immaturity are starting to test my patience.

My arrogance? or opinion that you seem to be the only one that can't get around it and or don't want to hear an opposing side. you're testing MY patience.

I'm Ignorant to disagree with you right?

I'm Immature for calmly replying to with out cussing my mouth of even if I really wanted to right? Immature for typing a full sentenced reason why I disagree, rather then being a baby about it?

[NathanCX]

How is he ignorant, arrogant or immature when you were the first to fire off the "F" bullet?

Â*



Nothing wrong with swearing, thinking you're better than a games company is arrogant, I believe.

Wow, you guys have a real issue with swearing, that's a bit... Strange.

[GF9000000Returns]

Nothing wrong with swearing, thinking you're better than a games company is arrogant, I believe.

Wow, you guys have a real issue with swearing, that's a bit... Strange.



It's just that Shenron (the mod for this site) doesn't allowÂ*us to do the sailor mouth (profanity)Â*to be used besides "Damn, ass, and hell"

[NathanCX]

My arrogance? or opinion that you seem to be the only one that can't get around it and or don't want to hear an opposing side. you're testing MY patience.

I'm Ignorant to disagree with you right?

I'm Immature for calmly replying to with out cussing my mouth of even if I really wanted to right? Immature for typing a full sentenced reason why I disagree, rather then being a baby about it?



Arrogance is thinking you're better than Spike, that's all I meant by that point.

Ignorance in thinking you're better than Spike when you clearly aren't

ImmaturityÂ*in expecting everything to be done your way and sitting there whining about how lazy and stupid Spike are without knowing anything about game design or the effort that goes into it yourself, ties in with ignorance.

Essentially all for one reason.

Unfortunately this community seems to look down on 'cussing' which makes me wonder why you're immature enough to not understand the use of 'cussing' for expression and emphasis on speech. Then again I'm assuming you guys are American, meaning that 'cussing' is a much bigger deal for you guys.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Nothing wrong with swearing, thinking you're better than a games company is arrogant, I believe.

Wow, you guys have a real issue with swearing, that's a bit... Strange.



Now when did I say I was better then Spike? If I could make the game myself I wouldn't be wasting time suggesting anything but obviously I can't. If you don't care bout quality go to DBZ sagas.

[GF9000000Returns]

Now when did I say I was better then Spike? If I could make the game myself I wouldn't be wasting time suggesting anything but obviously I can't. If you don't care bout quality go to DBZ sagas.

Meh, that game is alright.

[NathanCX]

Now when did I say I was better then Spike? If I could make the game myself I wouldn't be wasting time suggesting anything but obviously I can't. If you don't care bout quality go to DBZ sagas.

Yeah... My favourite Dragonball Z game is Shin Budokai 2. Even though I keep defending Spike, I'm a true-and-true Dimps-era fan. I care about quality too much, just not accuracy or silly features.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Arrogance is thinking you're better than Spike, that's all I meant by that point.

Ignorance in thinking you're better than Spike when you clearly aren't

ImmaturityÂ*in expecting everything to be done your way and sitting there whining about how lazy and stupid Spike are without knowing anything about game design or the effort that goes into it yourself, ties in with ignorance.

Essentially all for one reason.

Unfortunately this community seems to look down on 'cussing' which makes me wonder why you're immature enough to not understand the use of 'cussing' for expression and emphasis on speech. Then again I'm assuming you guys are American, meaning that 'cussing' is a much bigger deal for you guys.



What did I say that makes me better then spike? A I a developer of games? Do I produce DBZ games? So does that mean anyone who reviews a game and gives it a low score is just saying "oh I'm better then this company" Or does that mean they need to do better in certain areas? you seem to think anyone that gripes with the game is arrogant. you must think RB is SO perfect because you have no standards then?

Â*

I'm Immature for coming here and discussing what should be improved here? That's NOT the purpose of this forum? Unlike you I don't eat up what ever spike spits just for their quick bucks, ever wonder WHY dbz isn't as high tier as street fighter or tekken? Or Am I not the only one who wants better? For 90% of the fans that hated MK vs DC because if certain things THAT makes them arrogant? YET their persistence gives them the brilliant looking next title? For us Spike thinks if they can give us whatever they want we're happy. Most of are fan base is full of idiots who only care for roster that they get over and over again anyway, and that's why spike makes that their priority. Fans don't look at the bigger picture.

Â*

And you can cuss all you want, heck I encourage YOU specifically to take it all out then if your so above the rules.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Yeah... My favourite Dragonball Z game is Shin Budokai 2. Even though I keep defending Spike, I'm a true-and-true Dimps-era fan. I care about quality too much, just not accuracy or silly features.



Silly features as in? I favor Burst Limit over RB but RB was a better game because I care more about the time I spend then a crapfest that I get bored of after 10 minutes. Dimps is out of the picture obviously and there is only 1 game one chance.

[NathanCX]

What did I say that makes me better then spike? A I a developer of games? Do I produce DBZ games? So does that mean anyone who reviews a game and gives it a low score is just saying "oh I'm better then this company" Or does that mean they need to do better in certain areas? you seem to think anyone that gripes with the game is arrogant. you must think RB is SO perfect because you have no standards then?

Â*

I'm Immature for coming here and discussing what should be improved here? That's NOT the purpose of this forum? Unlike you I don't eat up what ever spike spits just for their quick bucks, ever wonder WHY dbz isn't as high tier as street fighter or tekken? Or Am I not the only one who wants better? For 90% of the fans that hated MK vs DC because if certain things THAT makes them arrogant? YET their persistence gives them the brilliant looking next title? For us Spike thinks if they can give us whatever they want we're happy. Most of are fan base is full of idiots who only care for roster that they get over and over again anyway, and that's why spike makes that their priority. Fans don't look at the bigger picture.

Â*

And you can cuss all you want, heck I encourage YOU specifically to take it all out then if your so above the rules.




Look, it's 5am and I really can't be assed with internets drama right now. I don't agree with your methods and you clearly don't like my attitude towards you, if you wanna argue or whatever then PM me, not spam up threads anymore, sick and tired of this shi... Poo. Last alteration was for all of you, don't say I never give anything back.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Look, it's 5am and I really can't be assed with internets drama right now. I don't agree with your methods and you clearly don't like my attitude towards you, if you wanna argue or whatever then PM me, not spam up threads anymore, sick and tired of this shi... Poo. Last alteration was for all of you, don't say I never give anything back.

Pfff and you call me arrogant huh? Hypocrite. I'm not going to drag this out with the real ignorant one. Which is you. Don't like discussion? then leave.

[GF9000000Returns]

WILL YOU TWO JUST KNOCK IT OFF?!

Â*

Nathan, stop being so dismissive and stuff. It's his opinion. If you're so excited for RB2, (like I am) just stop worrying about it. FS, you really need to know when to avoid fanboy posts, yo.

Â*

Good night.... ;)

[NathanCX]

Silly features as in? I favor Burst Limit over RB but RB was a better game because I care more about the time I spend then a crapfest that I get bored of after 10 minutes. Dimps is out of the picture obviously and there is only 1 game one chance.

Wasn't directed at you, the silly features bit, I just prefer decent content and storyline over giving a character a new fighting style or whatever. Burst Limit is probably my most played on game, Raging Blast was a lot of fun to play on but being the Dimps fan I am, I always go for Burst Limit first.Â*

Raging Blast is like T3 in the sense there are so many characters and with team battles you can just play for hours and hours without getting bored, something I'veÂ*alwaysÂ*loved about Spike games.Â*

Dimps isn't out yet, seeing as they only seem to like using Dimps and Spike for games... Maybe it's time for both parties to step down though, something I'm sure you and I could agree on is that we need a new publisherÂ*

[NathanCX]

WILL YOU TWO JUST KNOCK IT OFF?!

Â*

Nathan, stop being so dismissive and stuff. It's his opinion. If you're so excited for RB2, (like I am) just stop worrying about it. FS, you really need to know when to avoid fanboy posts, yo.

Â*

Good night.... ;)



Read my last post man, over it and gonna play happy-forums (for now). http://www.gokuscorner.com/PhArketypes/ext/tinymce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-tongue-out.gif

[Frieza_Soldier]

Wasn't directed at you, the silly features bit, I just prefer decent content and storyline over giving a character a new fighting style or whatever. Burst Limit is probably my most played on game, Raging Blast was a lot of fun to play on but being the Dimps fan I am, I always go for Burst Limit first.Â*

Raging Blast is like T3 in the sense there are so many characters and with team battles you can just play for hours and hours without getting bored, something I'veÂ*alwaysÂ*loved about Spike games.Â*

Dimps isn't out yet, seeing as they only seem to like using Dimps and Spike for games... Maybe it's time for both parties to step down though, something I'm sure you and I could agree on is that we need a new publisherÂ*



At least someone ELSE thinks BL had a leg to stand on.

[NathanCX]

At least someone ELSE thinks BL had a leg to stand on.

People here don't like Burst Limit?

[Frieza_Soldier]

WILL YOU TWO JUST KNOCK IT OFF?!

Â*

Nathan, stop being so dismissive and stuff. It's his opinion. If you're so excited for RB2, (like I am) just stop worrying about it. FS, you really need to know when to avoid fanboy posts, yo.

Â*

Good night.... ;)



Fanboy posts aren't as easy to spot here if they don't have "dimps he suc spke betre"

[Frieza_Soldier]

People here don't like Burst Limit?

I dunno but A LOT of people on other sites and youtube hate it for illogical reasons. biggest was it ends at cell so it sux automatically to them....Some hate it for reasonable problems with it and other don't even want a sequel since they feel they are forced to play EVERY DBZ game and are too benighted to give the cliff hanger's sequel a chance.

[NathanCX]

I did forget to mention I'm not buying Raging Blast 2... Maybe that changes things.

[Frieza_Soldier]

I did forget to mention I'm not buying Raging Blast 2... Maybe that changes things.

So what? don't buy it. I for one WANT a GOOD next gen DBZ game but too early to say if RB2 is even decent.

[NathanCX]

I dunno but A LOT of people on other sites and youtube hate it for illogical reasons. biggest was it ends at cell....Some hate it for reasonable problems with it and other don't even want a sequel since they feel they are forced to play EVERY DBZ game and are too benighted to give the cliff hanger's sequel a chance.


I didn't mind the ending because the story-mode was actually worth playing (for once). The only issues I ever had with it really was the lack of characters meant that after it was completed... It was just hard to keep fresh.

[NathanCX]

So what? don't buy it.

I was referring to theÂ*implicationÂ*that I'm a fanboy, when I didn't even buy Raging Blast out of the principle that I felt sick of Dragonball Z games being the same every damn time, which is why I argue so much for the inclusion of better storylines, etc...

[Frieza_Soldier]

I didn't mind the ending because the story-mode was actually worth playing (for once). The only issues I ever had with it really was the lack of characters meant that after it was completed... It was just hard to keep fresh.

My gripe was a roster that was WAY too small.

(they could have inculded the full ginyu force, King Cold, Fasha, Turles, Future Gohan,cui, Zarbon, Dadoria Cooler, Bojack, Zangya, Cell Jr. If they were going to stop at cell they could have added other the characters that came before buu and call it a game)

It lacked gamemodes and way way too boring after storymode to play. No tournament, no warrior road, nothing.

It lacked stages and diversity. I loved the Time chamber (best stage in the game and best version of the stage ever used) but they didn't include the lookout, space or any of the stages shown in the ending and we have 2 wastelands for no reason.

[Frieza_Soldier]

I was referring to theÂ*implicationÂ*that I'm a fanboy, when I didn't even buy Raging Blast out of the principle that I felt sick of Dragonball Z games being the same every damn time, which is why I argue so much for the inclusion of better storylines, etc...

Why do you argue then if we want the same thing? So what If my standards are higher? I just want the best they can offer for once.

[NathanCX]

My gripe was a roster that was WAY too small.

(they could have inculded the full ginyu force, King Cold, Fasha, Turles, Future Gohan,cui, Zarbon, Dadoria Cooler, Bojack, Zangya, Cell Jr. If they were going to stop at cell they could have added other the characters that came before buu and call it a game)

It lacked gamemodes and way way too boring after storymode to play. No tournament, no warrior road, nothing.

It lacked stages and diversity. I loved the Time chamber (best stage in the game and best version of the stage ever used) but they didn't include the lookout, space or any of the stages shown in the ending and we have 2 wastelands for no reason.



Yeah, I think the Ultimate Battle and Tournament modes are always my most-used features, even keeps me coming back to T3, whilst the inclusive story brings me back to T2 and the fighting system/water swirling around the base of you when you charge brings me back to T1. Infinite World and Budokai 3 fill in the rest of my needs.

[NathanCX]

Why do you argue then if we want the same thing? So what If my standards are higher? I just want the best they can offer for once.

It's not so much standards, just I think we want opposing uses for their attention and different views on things such as storyline's, What-Ifs, etc... At the core we both want the same things but the crust is almost opposite.

[ProjectLDV]

Like I said, I don't care if they hold back stages, characters, storylines or game modes. All that is fluff. I do care when they hold back the engine. I hate playing Spike games because they are so dumbed down, RB was the first to try to be good but they held back on it for some reason.

People hate RB because it gave them no pay off, for the lack of content its fighting system wasn't good enough to redeem. The same harshly applies to BL.

I fear that with RB2 Spike may be making the same mistake. The game doesn't look awesome in anyway, it doesn't grab you. It took me weeks of talking to Keron & watching high level play for me to even consider RB2. I shouldn't have to try to like a game. The game should easily attract me.

However people like myself & FS are better off playing Tekken, SF, MvC & Blazblue, because its clear the anime market doesn't cater for us, they like to sell to little kiddies, fanboys & sheep with extremely low standards.

[NathanCX]

I fear that with RB2 Spike may be making the same mistake. The game doesn't look awesome in anyway, it doesn't grab you. It took me weeks of talking to Keron & watching high level play for me to even consider RB2. I shouldn't have to try to like a game. The game should easily attract me.

However people like myself & FS are better off playing Tekken, SF, MvC & Blazblue, because its clear the anime market doesn't cater for us, they like to sell to little kiddies, fanboys & sheep with extremely low standards.



I still haven't considered the game yet. As a rule of thumb I'm not too much of a fighting game fan other than Tekken and Mortal Kombat. Mortal Kombat. It's just best to use these games for a little bit of fun rather than as a serious play, or so I've always found. Though, your point is proven kinda invalid by the fact the Dragonball Z franchise is really the only Animé game series than applies to your "they like to sell to little kiddies, fanboys & sheep with extremely low standards" statement.

[ssj_gohan]

Like I said, I don't care if they hold back stages, characters, storylines or game modes. All that is fluff. I do care when they hold back the engine. I hate playing Spike games because they are so dumbed down, RB was the first to try to be good but they held back on it for some reason.

People hate RB because it gave them no pay off, for the lack of content its fighting system wasn't good enough to redeem. The same harshly applies to BL.

I fear that with RB2 Spike may be making the same mistake. The game doesn't look awesome in anyway, it doesn't grab you. It took me weeks of talking to Keron & watching high level play for me to even consider RB2. I shouldn't have to try to like a game. The game should easily attract me.

However people like myself & FS are better off playing Tekken, SF, MvC & Blazblue, because its clear the anime market doesn't cater for us, they like to sell to little kiddies, fanboys & sheep with extremely low standards.



then play those games then, LDV no offense but i think ure standards are a bit too high, making dbz games into an over the top quality games, dont hate on others because they like a game for different reasons than you. thats like saying everyones dumb because they prefer dr seuss over h.p. lovecraft. im not afraid to say that i want chars and stages but i look into gameplay as well, not to the point of over-analyzing minor details. spike can do what they want, as long as they dont make a game as bad as rb again. if you feel that strongly dont play these games, but dont make petty generalisations about a fanbase, even if there is some truth to it

[Frieza_Soldier]

As long as they dont make a game as bad as rb again. if you feel that strongly dont play these games, but dont make petty generalizations about a fanbase, even if there is some truth to it

What are the chances of that based on what we've seen? And he is right though, the fanbase outside this forum have lower standards then Ninja storm has to offer as a whole. Most ppl are whining about an HD ssj4 or the game automatically sucks.

[ProjectLDV]

Do you know what I think is fun? Beating the tar out of skilled players to prove I am superior & I like doing it in flashy ways. B3 allowed me several different combos with which to pound people into the dirt.

The BT series only gave me the same combinations that almost everyone could do.

RB gives us a nerfed ZC2 which is good, cancels & sig attacks.

So far RB2 seems to have refined the RB engine, addressed the spam & added in new melee combinations but its not enough...its not NEARLY enough. This game is a fighting game, it is also a simulator, we need variety, the moves we've seen in the shows need to be corrected, we need the game to feel epic.

You want to buy it...feel free but don't act as though its some awesome god send cuz its not. & don't act like the majority of this fanbase is some intelligent, reasonable group of people. Open your damn eyes, read youtube comments, go to 4chan, gamefaqs/gamespot, read yahoo answers what will you see? Ignorant, illogical, low standard fanboys. Idiots who think 200 characters will make this game good. You guys are part of one of the worst fanbases in existence, we are just two steps above Taylor Swift fangirls. MY generalization is spot on as usual.

[ssj_gohan]

Do you know what I think is fun? Beating the tar out of skilled players to prove I am superior & I like doing it in flashy ways. B3 allowed me several different combos with which to pound people into the dirt.

The BT series only gave me the same combinations that almost everyone could do.

RB gives us a nerfed ZC2 which is good, cancels & sig attacks.

So far RB2 seems to have refined the RB engine, addressed the spam & added in new melee combinations but its not enough...its not NEARLY enough. This game is a fighting game, it is also a simulator, we need variety, the moves we've seen in the shows need to be corrected, we need the game to feel epic.

You want to buy it...feel free but don't act as though its some awesome god send cuz its not. & don't act like the majority of this fanbase is some intelligent, reasonable group of people. Open your damn eyes, read youtube comments, go to 4chan, gamefaqs/gamespot, read yahoo answers what will you see? Ignorant, illogical, low standard fanboys. Idiots who think 200 characters will make this game good. You guys are part of one of the worst fanbases in existence, we are just two steps above Taylor Swift fangirls. MY generalization is spot on as usual.



who said that i like rb2? let alone the rb series, hell idont even like the series, bt3 all day!

i realize the stuff about the fanbase and its true, but someone who would like to see ssj4 in hd a bad thing? as far as im concerned they have every right, at this point the trilogy should be as one and its possible, yet they dont. apples and oranges man , gameplay and content, different wants, same mutual attitude.

and ure a part of this fanbase as the rest of us, someone obsessing over small details and gameplay is no different than someone wanting chars and stages. no person is any less whiny regardless of what theyre looking for.

[ProjectLDV]

who said that i like rb2? let alone the rb series, hell idont even like the series, bt3 all day!

i realize the stuff about the fanbase and its true, but someone who would like to see ssj4 in hd a bad thing? as far as im concerned they have every right, at this point the trilogy should be as one and its possible, yet they dont. apples and oranges man , gameplay and content, different wants, same mutual attitude.

and ure a part of this fanbase as the rest of us, someone obsessing over small details and gameplay is no different than someone wanting chars and stages. no person is any less whiny regardless of what theyre looking for.

SSJ4 HD can wait. I want it too but putting it now would make things worse. & yes I do whine about every little detail because if you haven't notice ALL DBZ GAMES FALL SHORT OF THE MAIN GOAL!!! That goal is simulating DBZ combat in the best way possible.

Whining about gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>whining about characters that would suck if said gameplay doesn't improve anyway.

Yes I am part of this fanbase & I'm one of few people who has their priorities for this franchise in order. Anyway the horrible sales show what happens when quality is lacking.

[ssj_gohan]

SSJ4 HD can wait. I want it too but putting it now would make things worse. & yes I do whine about every little detail because if you haven't notice ALL DBZ GAMES FALL SHORT OF THE MAIN GOAL!!! That goal is simulating DBZ combat in the best way possible.

Whining about gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>whining about characters that would suck if said gameplay doesn't improve anyway.

Yes I am part of this fanbase & I'm one of few people who has their priorities for this franchise in order. Anyway the horrible sales show what happens when quality is lacking.



i see what you mean, but it doesnt have to be 100% perfect, i feel that both gameplay and content are equally important, bt3 did that perfect for me, i just want a few more characters and stages, and making use of the custom sountrack on the ps3 and im set, im just waiting till that day comes, while i do like the original BT's more, i do still have faith for the RB series

[ProjectLDV]

When the day comes that I can play Frieza & wrap my tail around someone's neck & punch them in the back to test their reflexes I'll be happy.

When I can play as 100% Frieza & tackle opponents, slam them, toss them around & clothesline them I'll be happy.

When I can play as fighting Trunks & go USSJ(the actual form) & bull charge my opponents & use that flashy falcon kick he did to Cell & his flurries.

When I can pummel someone's face in with left jabs with Cell & when I can use the running combo he did to own USSJ2 Trunks, I'll be happy.

When I can slowly rearrange someone's internal organs with Ultimate Gohan's slow & precise melee I'll be happy.

Ya know I could go on.

[ssj_gohan]

When the day comes that I can play Frieza & wrap my tail around someone's neck & punch them in the back to test their reflexes I'll be happy.

When I can play as 100% Frieza & tackle opponents, slam them, toss them around & clothesline them I'll be happy.

When I can play as fighting Trunks & go USSJ(the actual form) & bull charge my opponents & use that flashy falcon kick he did to Cell & his flurries.

When I can pummel someone's face in with left jabs with Cell & when I can use the running combo he did to own USSJ2 Trunks, I'll be happy.

When I can slowly rearrange someone's internal organs with Ultimate Gohan's slow & precise melee I'll be happy.

Ya know I could go on.



thats asking a bit much but if they can do it go for it, ill be honest, in gameplay i dont have high standards, it could play like nuns for all i care, i have fun with that game anyway, just as long as they stick with a good system and not mess it up, then im good. i want to be able to use all the kaioshin's, kid uub, kid pan, kid krillin, and all of the other remaining db/z/gt heroes and villians that never fought but have the potential to fight.

[GF9000000Returns]

i see what you mean, but it doesnt have to be 100% perfect, i feel that both gameplay and content are equally important, bt3 did that perfect for me, i just want a few more characters and stages, and making use of the custom sountrack on the ps3 and im set, im just waiting till that day comes, while i do like the original BT's more, i do still have faith for the RB series

Okay then, how about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAL08bQfgzs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsUfo1y_Suc

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BT3 ain't perfect anymore *evil laugh* And at least Rb fixed that problem. OPEN YOUR EYES!

[MysticGospel]

Okay then, how about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAL08bQfgzs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsUfo1y_Suc

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BT3 ain't perfect anymore *evil laugh* And at least Rb fixed that problem. OPEN YOUR EYES!



Not really, RB has infinites as well.

[The_Pumpkin_King]

Lol infinites in BT3

[GF9000000Returns]

Not really, RB has infinites as well.

But BT3 has more.

[MysticGospel]

But BT3 has more.

Well BT3 does have more characters.

[ssj_gohan]

Okay then, how about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAL08bQfgzs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsUfo1y_Suc

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BT3 ain't perfect anymore *evil laugh* And at least Rb fixed that problem. OPEN YOUR EYES!



ok... big deal lol?

i dont even use infinites, i combo the best i can with strategies i came up with for each char. i didnt say its perfect, i said it's done that way for me, however imo bt3 was damn near, just needed a few more things, all what rb did imo was fix pointless things and destroyed the gameplay from bt3, rb2 should fix it, several things wrong with rb. besides you know as well as i do that would NEVER happen, in an actual fight, thus pointless

[GF9000000Returns]

This thread ain't old, so I think SSJ3 Vegeta's moveset should be fixed. (Credit to Kbrokks for some of the pics)

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SA #1: Super Big Bang Attack (should be maroon)
http://100megsfree4.com/abcsofdbz/gallery/bigbang.jpg

SA #2: Final Flash
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091104053413/dragonball/images/6/63/Final_Flash.png (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091104053413/dragonball/images/6/63/Final_Flash.png)


SA #3: Super Energy Wave Volley


SA #4: Unfathomable Reasons (Quick Event/Â*Tapping Square Button Rush)
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/13._Babidi_Saga/207._Vegeta_Attacks/207-28.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/13._Babidi_Saga/207._Vegeta_Attacks/207-28.jpg)http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/16._Kid_Buu_Saga/266._Minute_of_Desperation/266-69.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/16._Kid_Buu_Saga/266._Minute_of_Desperation/266-69.jpg)http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100318235702/dragonball/images/thumb/c/cb/Amazingimpactone.jpg/800px-Amazingimpactone.jpg (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100318235702/dragonball/images/c/cb/Amazingimpactone.jpg)http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8_v2/DragonballZ-Movie08_1402.jpghttp://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8_v2/DragonballZ-Movie08_1404.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g253/Ivan21_2006/z67.jpg



SA#5: Super Explosive Wave
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/253._Union_of_Rivals/253-48.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/15._Fusion_Saga/253._Union_of_Rivals/253-48.jpg)


SA #6: Galick Impact (his version in RB)



SA #7Â*Dirty Fireworks (the dirty fireworks should be massive)
http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/13._Babidi_Saga/207._Vegeta_Attacks/207-10.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/13._Babidi_Saga/207._Vegeta_Attacks/207-10.jpg)http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/13._Babidi_Saga/207._Vegeta_Attacks/207-11.jpg (http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Dragonball_Z/13._Babidi_Saga/207._Vegeta_Attacks/207-11.jpg)

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090417225829/dragonball/images/f/f2/Dirty_Fireworks.jpg





ULTIMATE ATTACK: Crimson Galick Gun (Should beÂ*HUGE like Frieza's Death Cannon)
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091229193626/dragonball/images/2/25/Crimson_Galick_Gun.png

"This has gone FAR ENOUGH! GALICK GUUUUUNNNN!!!"

[Frieza_Soldier]

someone obsessing over small details and gameplay is no different than someone wanting chars and stages. no person is any less whiny regardless of what theyre looking for.

Not true, people who whine about detail want the game to improve, people who want characters will buy it just for it and don't care how crap the game is.

[Frieza_Soldier]

someone obsessing over small details and gameplay is no different than someone wanting chars and stages. no person is any less whiny regardless of what theyre looking for.

Not true, people who whine about detail want the game to improve, people who want characters will buy it just for it and don't care how crap the game is. Whinning to an extent does work (Mortal kombat 9 looks like the best in the series BECAUSE of the fans whinning over detail and NOT characters + the creator cares for his fans and does what they want instead of trying to occupy us with crap over hyped gimmicks that are just features redone from the previous game) Honestly Spike pisses me off.

"you get so Mad that the whole world darkens aroundÂ* you" the sky got dark already in RB1...It's like if Ed boon advertised that there would be fatalities in every new MK game even though we had it before = stupid and spike thinks we're stupid)

[Frieza_Soldier]

then play those games then, LDV no offense but i think ure standards are a bit too high.

Too high? No, it's the fact Spike is still taking baby steps with their "improvements" honestly they repackage and re giftrap the same features we always had. NEVER once have they have us something dramatic and rewarding never seen before like hoe improvements are suppose to be.

[Frieza_Soldier]

This thread ain't old, so I think SSJ3 Vegeta's moveset should be fixed. (Credit to Kbrokks for some of the pics

SA #1: Super Big Bang Attack (should be maroon)
http://100megsfree4.com/abcsofdbz/gallery/bigbang.jpg



His super Big bang should be From Budokai 3.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/f2ABmsKHKtY/hqdefault.jpg

"Welcome to Oblivion!"

[Kokos]

I always wondered why he said that, that's so not Vegeta.

[InfernalVegito]

The Big Bang attack in Budokai 3 was quite awesome. The camera angle gave the right cinematic effect for this attack. Plus combined with the charging energy ball in his palm and the sentence "Welcome to Oblivion!!!!" makes him even more fierce and sublime.

[majin_ali]

wrong topic sry

[Frieza_Soldier]

I always wondered why he said that, that's so not Vegeta.

How is it not? In the early android saga and namek saga he did say things like that.

"feel my wrath!" "blow this ship to kingdom come!"

It IS vegeta.

[Frieza_Soldier]

The Big Bang attack in Budokai 3 was quite awesome. The camera angle gave the right cinematic effect for this attack. Plus combined with the charging energy ball in his palm and the sentence "Welcome to Oblivion!!!!" makes him even more fierce and sublime.

"Prepare to taste Oblivion.... Take this! Super Big bang attack!"

"Fear my power!"

[NathanCX]

"Welcome to Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta's.... Super Big bang attack!"

Not really Vegetaish to say his whole name... Apart from that, I think it's good.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Not really Vegetaish to say his whole name... Apart from that, I think it's good.

I was Just "what-if"ing his B3 dialogue but I guess saying all that is too much.

[NathanCX]

I was Just "what-if"ing his B3 dialogue but I guess saying all that is too much.

It's a good idea, Budokai 3's ultimates should be taken as inspiration by Spike. Even if it's something like, to launch the second cut-scene Big Bang then they'd need to boost (with at least 5 blast stocks) and be on their last health bar. Something like that, anyway.

[Frieza_Soldier]

It's a good idea, Budokai 3's ultimates should be taken as inspiration by Spike. Even if it's something like, to launch the second cut-scene Big Bang then they'd need to boost (with at least 5 blast stocks) and be on their last health bar. Something like that, anyway.

I say the big bang's second cut scene should just be triggered on contact with non guarding opponent.

I wish they would Give Kid buu his Warp Kamehameha or what I call "Kamehameha Burst" (Planet Burst + Super Kamehameha) from Budokai 3.

Bardock's ultimate would be no short of epic if it was added especially if SSJ was added.

It also wouldn't hurt to get Great saiyawomen's ultimate from IW is she was in the game.

I also think that Galactic donuts should not be a cutsceneÂ* or if it has to be they should add a kamehameha finisher like Gotenks in B3 did or what Super Buu was about to do to Gohan, like say u do it at max power the kamehameha activates on ungaurding opponent. If done with out max it's just normal.

[NathanCX]

I say the big bang's second cut scene should just be triggered on contact with non guarding opponent.

I wish they would Give Kid buu his Warp Kamehameha or what I call "Kamehameha Burst" (Planet Burst + Super Kamehameha) from Budokai 3.

Bardock's ultimate would be no short of epic if it was added especially if SSJ was added.

It also wouldn't hurt to get Great saiyawomen's ultimate from IW is she was in the game.

I also think that Galactic donuts should not be a cutsceneÂ* or if it has to be they should add a kamehameha finisher like Gotenks in B3 did or what Super Buu was about to do to Gohan, like say u do it at max power the kamehameha activates on ungaurding opponent. If done with out max it's just normal.



They should also have Broly's ultimate as 'Omega Rush' or something, because that move was badass, maybe even the first half of SS4 Gogeta's ultimate could be a rush for Gogeta or something, they have absolutely amazing ultimates, Bardock's, Broly's and Kid Buu's were my favourites.

[Kokos]

How is it not? In the early android saga and namek saga he did say things like that.

"feel my wrath!" "blow this ship to kingdom come!"

It IS vegeta.



What?

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[ssjgohan2009]

gotenks rign attack nee destroy cut seen fi witch the shoe after gotenks useÂ* it show clase the buu traped

[Frieza_Soldier]

What?

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He said that before he turned majin after gohan lost to dabura, I don't remember what he said before that.

[Frieza_Soldier]

They should also have Broly's ultimate as 'Omega Rush' or something, because that move was badass, maybe even the first half of SS4 Gogeta's ultimate could be a rush for Gogeta or something, they have absolutely amazing ultimates, Bardock's, Broly's and Kid Buu's were my favourites.

IMO they should use the first half of Gigantic Meteor up to the ground slam THEN continue with Gigantic Hammer from when he grabs you off the ground then slams you around.

B3 seems to be the only game that got Gegeta's Soul Punisher, right. RB's is WAY to fast to enjoy.

[Frieza_Soldier]

If anyone actually remembers Movie 8 he was talking like an actual human being in both Legendary and Base/SSJ mode.Â* He got the whole LOL KAKAROT thing from Movie 10 and people take his speech mannerisms from that movie over the ones in Movie 8 for some reason.

After watching Dragonball Kai, Frieza Proves that DBZ dub lines don't have to be 3rd grade english but can be more complex, metaphorical and deeper then. So therefore I am not wrong on wanting Broly to get better lines. Even in movie one he didn't say kakarot other then when he was getting goku's attention or angry at looking at him. Fanboys of Broly don't know broly much less DBZ.

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[Zienzo]

Not really Vegetaish to say his whole name... Apart from that, I think it's good.

He says his name in the manga when he did Big Bang Attack for the first time.

[Zienzo]

So therefore I am not wrong on wanting Broly to get better lines. Even in movie one he didn't say kakarot other then when he was getting goku's attention or angry at looking at him. Fanboys of Broly don't know broly much less DBZ.

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Yeah, he was actually pretty sadistic in his first movie.

[Frieza_Soldier]

I dunno, that doesn't sound like something Broly would say at all.

I actually believe he would. He is pretty sadistically smart.

[BardockRulez]

I actually believe he would. He is pretty sadistically smart.


You are talking about Broly,right.....The most over-powered zealot who only thinks about killing one person?

[Zienzo]

WhyÂ*do so many people like Broly?Â*

Is it because he's crazy strong? Or what.

[Zienzo]

You are talking about Broly,right.....The most over-powered zealot who only thinks about killing one person?

He does have actual dialogue in his first movie compared to his second.

[BardockRulez]

He does have actual dialogue in his first movie compared to his second.

i still consider him a muscle bound idiot who's got no control of his powers.

[Zienzo]

i still consider him a muscle bound idiot who's got no control of his powers.

I do too

[BardockRulez]

I do too

What I hate about all Broly fans is that they over-estimate him.On YouTube,I saw some guy say that Broly is as strong as Majin Buu.....WTF!!!!!

[Frieza_Soldier]

You are talking about Broly,right.....The most over-powered zealot who only thinks about killing one person?

His dialogue. Is the only thing I can tolerate.

PPl on youtube think that Broly = Super P. cell

[BardockRulez]

His dialogue. Is the only thing I can tolerate.

PPl on youtube think that Broly = Super P. cell



Tell that to the guy who thinks

Broly = Majin Buu

[ProjectLDV]

I saw a bunch of sprite battles from this one user. The dude a video with Broly SSJ5 vs SSJ4 Goku & Vegeta. It was so bad. Inconsistent, stupid...weird all at once. Goku & Vegeta fuse & Broly is somehow able to harm Gogeta & beat him, he later cuts Vegeta in half then Goku goes SSJ5 & does the same to Broly....UGH.

Then the youtube comments......dear Lord.

What makes Broly bad are his fans. His power level is constantly rising....don't know where that came from. LSSJ3 Broly can beat Vegito...don't see how that's possible.

They always vomit up these convoluted theories as why Broly is the end all be all of DB when infact he is surpassed quite quickly as soon as SSJ2 Goku mauls Yakon.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Tell that to the guy who thinks

Broly = Majin Buu



I was arguing with a dumbass who thinks goku was stronger then Ultimate Gohan just because he fought Gotenks buu in Filler.

[ProjectLDV]

Buutenks made Goku his b!tch even in the filler. So what was that guy's point? tee hee

[BardockRulez]

I was arguing with a dumbass who thinks goku was stronger then Ultimate Gohan just because he fought Gotenks buu in Filler.

Well that was confusing for most people.

[GF9000000Returns]

Yeah, had me lost for a second there...

[ssjgohan2009]

Â*Â* brolyÂ* is only stornger then ssj2 audlt gohan but weeker thenÂ*Â* ssj2 gokuÂ* andÂ*Â*Â*Â* majin buu

[SSJ-Luffy]

OK, Broly is definitely overestimated, some YT-useres are dumb as hell, saying SSJ3 Goku (Boo-Saga) is stronger than Mystic Gohan (Boo-Saga)...

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If I make a list, it would looks like:

1. SSJ Vegetto

2. Boo Gohan absorbed

3. Boo Gotenks absorbed

4. Ultimate Gohan

5. SSJ3 Gotenks

6. Super Boo

7. Kid Boo

8. SSJ 3 Goku

9. Majin Boo (against SSJ3 Goku)

10. SSJ2 Vegeta/SSJ2 Goku

11. Mr. Boo pure hearted

12. SUPÂ KANZENTAI CELL

13. Dabura

14. Densetsu Sûpâ Saiyajin Broly

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This list only for the end of the Boo-Saga (manga), we don't know anything official how strong Goku and Vegeta gets in the Last Tournament/Oob-Saga....

We can discuss about the SSJ3 Goku, Kid Boo and Majin Boo part, but we can see, how Broly is clearly overrated by many fans.

Mr. Boo pure hearted can easily take down LSSJ Broly, I don't know, what so special about him. Broly is weaker than at least 12(!!!!) guys!!!

He is the 12th strongest http://www.gokuscorner.com/PhArketypes/ext/tinymce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-tongue-out.gif, not the strongest person...

Sure Broly is sometimes fun, I just love his KAKAROTTO-scream in Japanese, it's sounds for me EPIC, but that's everything I like about him.

His scream Japanese: @1:25

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7c3PMhxJsw&feature=related

PS: Dabra can easily take Broly down with his stone-spit http://www.gokuscorner.com/PhArketypes/ext/tinymce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-cool.gif!!!

[NathanCX]

Meh...



Wrong.

Super Buu and SS3 Gotenks were even and Goku stated he couldn't defeat Majin Buu because he couldn't sustain his power

[Frieza_Soldier]

Either way if SSJ3 Broly x Vegeta MUST be in the game, their moves and overall characters NEED to change.

[GF9000000Returns]

Either way if SSJ3 Broly x Vegeta MUST be in the game, their moves and overall characters NEED to change.

Vegeta'sÂ*Galick (EPIC)Â*Gun is still in andÂ*his smash attacks are changed a bit. It's BROLY whoÂ*definitely needs a change except forÂ*his Double Eraser Cannon.