If you were to Re-Write GT, how would you?

[Frieza_Soldier]

What would you keep? What would you change? Any Ideas?

Keep: Goku Fighting uub in Room below the Time chamber as first scene with epic fight. (from the original) Goku still references that hes never been that tired since he fought Freeza. Pan wants to train with them in the chamber but Goku says she's too young and she isn't ready for the pressure and gravity. Uub leaves to do something else for a break giving an excuse for Goku to go home and eat something as he says his muscles were in need of relaxation. He then brings up how Vegeta was never able to beat him because he would take his training to seriously. Vegeta over hears and gets bitter but doesn't say anything because he knows Goku was right. (flashing back to his old methods.)
Change: pilaf's appearance: Never happens, OR he fights with the missles but then gets thrown off the lookout, NOT wishing for Goku to be a kid.

Rewrite: Pan climbs Korin Tower (like Goku did) by choice, since she flew around the world on her own. She also has a tail but never transforms. The tail is removed in battle and Gohan explains what would happen if she kept it any longer, she then fears the Oozaru and is glad the tail was removed and she could fight without it being pulled or squeezed.

Rewrite: Gohan at home working in accounting near his wife as she would speak to him commenting on Hurcule's boasting, he then tells her about how he saved the earth from buu and that he actually IS a hero but not in the way he pictures it, they laugh.
Rewrite: Gohan explains why he gave up fighting, Goku comes home to encourage him but he says he'd rather not, and listen to what his mom wanted. (staying in character early on, Gohan doesn't desire fighting) Goku tells Gohan, that pan has more spirit into it then he does now and says she reminds him of himself as a kid. (flash back to Goku climbing tower) Gohan freaks out (being a good dad) Then Goku says it's fine, then he says he'd be watching her, and that if she falls, she can simply fly. Gohan asks where she is now, Goku has a silly momment and forgets that she was already climbing the tower and says he has to go, then flys off. Chi chi runs in asking if that was Goku and yells at him flying off and never doing the dishes since he eats so much. Gohan thinks to himself that things are the same as they always were.

Keep: Goku bumping into Roshi
Rewrite: Not as a Kid / Pan is not dating boys, but eager to train. (as she was in the end of dragonball as a child)
Keep: RED shenron/Black star Balls
Rewrite: ????? (used for a different purpose.) Wish NOT being wasted on Goku's second childhood but on something that causes destortion on the universe, so Goku, Pan and Trunks go off to undo it. (Possible Janemba return??)

[Zienzo]

Everything about Goku being a kid in Gt just annoys me so much...

[majin_ali]

actually he is not an kid, he is an adult in an little body

[MysticGospel]

Generally the story will go the same way, but the next generation are the heroes.

Majuub kills Baby

Adult Gotenks kills Super #17

SSJ4 Gogeta kills Omega Shenron

My idea is that Baby will go to Earth while Goku, Trunks and Pan are still in space searching for the Black Star Dragonballs. Baby will start spreading the eggs, (he will still take over Vegeta's body) but Uub and Buu won't be affected. Buu and Uub try to fight Baby Vegeta but don't stand a chance. Buu then decides to merge with Uub, so he becomes Majuub with a power boost and Buu's abilities (including regeneration). Majuub overpowers Baby Vegeta and after weakening him significantly, he uses magic to remove Baby and destroys him. Majuub then uses that same magic (Genocide Blast style) to remove all of the eggs. Goku, Trunks and Pan return to Earth with the Black Star Dragonballs, so Piccolo doesn't die.

Afterwards, Myuu and Gero make Hell Fighter #17 and use the transmission to break all of the bad guys out of hell like normal. Then both Goku and Vegeta go to hell where they become trapped. Afterwards, the fight Cell and Frieza who are much more powerful and have mindless-like states where they constantly repeat how they are the best. Goku and Vegeta manage to defeat both Frieza and Cell, and they learn that the cuase of their new power was from a type of forbidden fruit that grows in hell. They are told by a worker that whoever eats it will have all of their power released, making them even more powerful but at the cost of losing their sanity due to the overwhelming amount of power they gain. Both Goku and Vegeta decide to eat it, confident in their abilities to control it due to them being able to control SSJ and they eat it. Then for a while they struggle with it, but eventually control it. (will explain later)

Meanwhile back on Earth, most of the bad guys have been sent back to hell (by Goten, Trunks, Pan, Gohan and Majuub) and both #17s fuse to become Super #17. Though they are confident in their ability to take him down, they decide to let Goten and Trunks fuse (for the whole fusion vs fusion thing) to become Gotenks and he easily dispatches him.

Then everyone decides to collect the Dragonballs in order to fix the damage done, but the evil Shenron comes out and breaks into the Shadow Dragons. After taking out everybody but Sin, they start to become fatigued but Gohan manages to overpower him enough to make him resort to absorbing the other dragonballs. Meanwhile back in hell, Goku and Vegeta have mastered the power gained from the fruit and end up as Super Saiyan 4s (Goku also becomes an adult again) and get out of hell by using Instant Transmission (due to both of them being alive) and go to where everyone else is fighting Omega, but are getting tired and Trunks and Goten can't re-fuse due to already using it on another dragon. Majuub was planning on using his reaming power to heal Gohan so he could fight Omega until Trunks and Goten could re-fuse but Goku and Vegeta (as SSJ4s) come and tell the others to let them take down Omega. Rather than deciding who gets to fight him, they decide to fuse and take down Omega easily. Afterwards, when the Dragonballs are restored, they use the first wish to fix all of the damage done, and they use the second wish to send Shenron away to prevent anything bad happening from the Dragonballs.

That's the general idea. Btw shouldn't this thread be in the Gathering of Earthlings section?

[Frieza_Soldier]

Rewrite: - (It didn't make sense why Goku would use SSJ1 so often, SSJ2 atleast would have made some sense. Since the whole point was that they raised SSJ1 as high as possible in the Imperfect cell saga)
Keep: - Vegeta the same, his rivally ended and now he becomes proud warrior of the human race. (his character developed, people seem to think he has to be the way he was in the android saga forever, that gets annoying. No SSJ3, but Keep Final Shine/Add Super Big bang attack)

Rewrite: - Pan is more of a fighter, remove the cocky whining and moaning about What Goku and Trunks are doing wrong and focus on herself. Goten and trunks fight as SSJ2's. More and fuse later on.
Her voice actor gets changed in the dub to a less annoying one. Her Ocean voice was better. She learns how to use Kaioken or False SSJ (But due to her mucle mass being non existant, It doesn't change her physic.) If copying Goku isn't wanted then, she learns something new.

Keep: Eis Shenron/Nova/Omega/Ocean (Change Ocean's ultimate from being that stupid tail spin thing.)
KeeP: Baby/Super 17: (Change Super 17's existsance backstory to a more logical one)

Rewrite: - Piccolo Fights Baby Vegeta first, Beats him, Baby then drains the power of his seeded hostages. Gohan fights piccolo as it was originally as Baby gathers energy.
Rewrite: - Big Bang attack is big bang attack not Final flash.

[Frieza_Soldier]

That's the general idea. Btw shouldn't this thread be in the Gathering of Earthlings section?
I thought about this but it fits more here since this is creative writting.

[Zienzo]

actually he is not an kid, he is an adult in an little body

I am very aware of this, but Goku in GT, for all intents and purposes, is a kid.

[Midori]

Lets see...

Goku dosn't become a kid because Pilaf is dead and unable to get the Dragon balls. Buu killed everyone on earth and they only wished GOOD people back to live so evil people like him obviously wouldn't have come back.

The Black star dragon balls don't exist. Goku goes off to space in order to find tough foes to fight against after the Grand Kai tells him that their are potentially undiscovered strong fighters in civilatiaions that avoided contact with Freeza's empire. Since Earth has nothing to worry about he takes Vegeta, with him leaving the kids behind to defend the planet with Piccolo acting in a mentor roll to help their training.

No Super 17. He's a Cyborg so you can't just make an exact double of him to fuse with the original, that makes no sense.

The Baba saga happens with Pan, Trunks and Goten as the stars. It actually feels like a threat since Goku isn't there to save the day.

No super sayian 4. However Pan becomes a Super Saiyan herself allowing her to tip the balance and defeat baby who is a much more convincing threat now.

The Evil dragon saga happens and the early dragons are actually more of a threat rather then mostly being a collective joke.

Goku only comes back at the end since Omega Shenron is so strong. "Finally a worthy challenge." He proclaims as he and Vegeta proceed to take turns tag teaming him but not having much luck. Finally Goku has Pan take his place and much like Gohan vs Cell she taps into her hidden potential and beasts out on Omega kicking his butt after a long fight. Gohan COULD have been that strong but he's a pacifist by nature where as she's a warrior so she didn't squander her power thus why she's strong then Goku and Vegeta.

Furious that a mere girl is stronger then him, Vegeta leaves dragging Goku with him to resume their training and eveyone is all happy knowing all is well.

[majin_ali]

Lets see...


No super sayian 4. However Pan becomes a Super Saiyan herself allowing her to tip the balance and defeat baby who is a much more convincing threat now.



wtf? terrible

[Frieza_Soldier]

Lets see...The Black star dragon balls don't exist. Goku goes off to space in order to find tough foes to fight against after the Grand Kai tells him that their are potentially undiscovered strong fighters in civilatiaions that avoided contact with Freeza's empire. Since Earth has nothing to worry about he takes Vegeta, with him leaving the kids behind to defend the planet with Piccolo acting in a mentor roll to help their training.
The shadow dragons cant exist without them. I say keep them but use them on something more serious.


No Super 17. He's a Cyborg so you can't just make an exact double of him to fuse with the original, that makes no sense.
He can have a different back story, instead of 17+17 he would have been a full android redesigned to be like 17 since he was so rebellious as a cyborg. Meaning he is his own creation, not a fused character.

[Kokos]

I like that premise, Midori.

Other things I would do, I would:

1. make Pan less annoying, I know she's a kid but in her current state she is not likeable at all.
2. get rid of the design of the Z-fighters because quite frankly, I find them embarrassing to look at, with Vegeta being the worst offender by a good margin. (http://i.fok.nl/s/emo.gif)

[Night]

and at the end of all of that have Shenron(in a Human like form) vs Goku

[Kaon]

I would honestly just not even attempt to re-write it and still pretend it never happened and then continue to wait several years until Dragon Ball Online (IF it does) gets released in Europe/America and actually experience what really happens after Dragon Ball Z.

[Ituke]

Hey What about DragonBall NG?? By Levi/Barson? Guess What I know Him He Said He's Been Wrighting alot and he has the perfect storyline. Oh Did I forget to mention? I am Levi!!!

[Zuumaester]

Hey What about DragonBall NG?? By Levi/Barson? Guess What I know Him He Said He's Been Wrighting alot and he has the perfect storyline. Oh Did I forget to mention? I am Levi!!!

Really??? Why wouldn't you name your account the same as your name?

[Ituke]

Really??? Why wouldn't you name your account the same as your name? Well I Wanted Something New and This Name goes to a Spin-Off series Of Naruto I'm wrighting. Anyway why Not Barson Well Then It wouldn't Be fun as well as my real name that and I forgot my password and email that went with the account.

[Zuumaester]

Well i wanted something new and this name goes to a Spin-Off series of Naruto i'm WRITING. Anyway why not Barson? Well then it wouldn't be fun as well as my real name, that and I forgot my password and email that went with the account.

Rewrote your entire post for the sake of accuracy, enjoy! :)

[SSJ-Luffy]

Keep the search of the DragonBalls part, remain the haircuts of end of Z.
SSJ3 Vegeta, Ultimate Gohan.
Goku should turn adult in the mid series, it's the best, if he achieved SSJ4 and gets his normal body for ALL his form back.

[Zuumaester]

Keep the search of the DragonBalls part, remain the haircuts of end of Z.
SSJ3 Vegeta, Ultimate Gohan.
Goku should turn adult in the mid series, it's the best, if he achieved SSJ4 and gets his normal body for ALL his form back.

I agree with the idea of Vegeta getting Ssj3 in GT(except he never did), and i think Ssj4 has a bit of magic in it since it regrows your pants. Ultimate Gohan, definitely should not have slacked of as he did in GT, thus getting "brain controlled" by Bebi.

[itsover9000]

i found that in gt they made everyone alot weaker then in Z :/ and Goku being a kid just added to that. :(

[Vegetafan1]

I wouldn't change anything about GT except the ending. I wouldn't have Goku leave at the end with Shenron.

[Frieza_Soldier]

I would make pan less of a whiny gangster

[Vegetafan1]

Pan was okay, but I would change one thing about her. I would have her be stronger. It was stupid to see her attack someone and get knocked out in one small hit.
I would also have Goten end up marrying Felise or whatever her name was.

[Frieza_Soldier]

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/362/9/f/gotenks_ssj3_by_daalminato-d35tfgr.png
GT Gotenks?

[Zuumaester]

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/362/9/f/gotenks_ssj3_by_daalminato-d35tfgr.png
GT Gotenks?

Would GT Gotenks "only" have Ssj3 as the base form, or would he have his previous forms?

[Frieza_Soldier]

Would GT Gotenks "only" have Ssj3 as the base form, or would he have his previous forms?
I'd be more surprised if he could reach SSj3 again at all, by GT logic this should be impossible. If he was in GT the most he gets is SSJ1, lose then never attempted again. I mean Trunks went cold turkey with his training and cut it (going against his character since Z kid trunks is supposed to be arrogant and proud of his dad)and Goten got lazy.
Why make GT trunks the exact same as Future trunks but dumber and more panicky? Thats not right. well not really. Goten at end of Z was more concerned with training and made fun of trunks forced into it again. When the tournament rose...

don't even get me started with the pan screw up.... Pan was confident as well and over tested herself "I just circled the world again gramps" GT made her hate training and always nit picky at everyone else's mistakes.

I also find these power reading after the freeza saga 100% bullcrap... People seem to think that just because a character is born after a previous character, that they are stronger then all those before it.. "pan is stronger Freeza" bull.
Pan is not. If they were to fight Freeza would kill her, its not about strength, its about thinking. Freeza's experience would be more then enough to kill her. I mean if this were animal face off it would be shown.

I stand saying pan to not be stronger then Scouter Vegeta. I day he would kill her. She has kid gohan's experience in battle minus oozaru. She would die.

[Vegetafan1]

Okay THAT is true. The stuff about Pan I mean

[Zuumaester]

Okay THAT is true. The stuff about Pan I mean

No, Pan is fine as she is. It's just the inconsistency that is wrong.

[Frieza_Soldier]

No, Pan is fine as she is at the end of Z. It's just the inconsistency that is wrong.
GT, made her completly unlikable for a lot of the majority, not because they made her weak. Her personality, design and voice just destroyed the character.

[Zuumaester]

GT, made her completly unlikable for a lot of the majority, not because they made her weak. Her personality, design and voice just destroyed the character.

Actually to me that "destroyed" personality is what i liked about her. Annoying little brat with super powers. Lovely. :)

[angelusdelioncourt]

If I were to rewrite GT, I would have them powerscaled to Z standards. The GT characters are insanely overpowered.

[Zuumaester]

If I were to rewrite GT, I would have them powerscaled to Z standards. The GT characters are insanely overpowered.

So overpowered that when they transform(IF they transform), the opponent basically has the upper hand already.

[angelusdelioncourt]

Like how Pan can beat Android 19. LOLWUT? XD

[Gohan]

If I were to rewrite GT, first of all, goku would not be a kid, second, Pan would not exist, and third, no filler.

other tan that, everything else is normal.

[Zuumaester]

If I were to rewrite GT, first of all, goku would not be a kid, second, Pan would not exist, and third, no filler.

other tan that, everything else is normal.

See, there's a problem with that. There is NO filler in GT, all that GT is, GT is! Pan not existing is a pretty big plotpoint, considering she was concieved and took part in a martial arts tournament in the end part of the Z storyline.

[UltraRik]

Hmm i love GT, unlike most DB fans, sure, the goku being a kid again and searching dragonballs across the universe
lasts too long and gets boring, but i wouldn't change a bit. Perhaps Pan would be able to go Super Saiyan , at the near-end of
the series. Oh, and Vegeta should go Super Saiyan 3, just few episodes before Goku goes Super Saiyan 4. They ruined Vegeta in GT.

[hulkty]

I'm gonna try to break a lot: (Let me know if I forget something very important!)

Lost Episodes Saga: Just don't even show, it was boring and filler...

Baby Saga:
1. Goku stops Pilaf before he makes the wish and Goku remains as an adult throughout the series.
2. Goku, Uub, Dende, and Popo all talk to the Black Star Shenron to have him leave, but the effect of them still happens regardless and the story is pretty much the same from there.
3. Pan wears an outfit like the one she wore during the final tournament in DBZ.
4. Pan is into training and fighting like Goku.
5. Pan can become a SSj.
6. Gohan trained Pan while Goku trained Uub.
7. Gohan hasn't lost his Elder Kai Unlock Ability.
8. Vegeta has the same hair style as DBZ and no mustache.
9. Vegeta can become a SSj3.
10. Goten still has the same hair as the end of DBZ.
11. Trunks has trained during his free-time after work to keep up with Goten.
12. Trunks and Goten go into space with Goku without Pan.
13. Baby infects Pan on Earth first instead of Goten.
14. Baby Pan infects Gohan even easier, because Gohan won't kill his daughter.
15. Baby Gohan and Pan fight SSj3 Vegeta, but gets infected.
16. When everyone returns, Trunks still gets infected and Goku and Goten fight everyone; instead of Kid Goku and Pan.
17. Goten is still knocked out and Goku still beats everyone, but Baby Vegeta.
18. Everything is the same until Goku comes back with his tail; except Goten runs around were Pan would have been.
19. When Trunks is healed of the infection with everyone else, they actually do fusion into Gt Gotenks to help Goku.
20. Outcome is all the same until Super 17 Saga.
21 EXTRA. No Giru. They never lose the Dragon Radar.

Super 17 Saga:
1. Everything is the same until Super 17 fights the Z-fighters.
2. The fight is better because Pan is a SSj, Vegeta is a SSj3, Gohan still has his ability, and Gotenks fuses, but they still end up losing until Goku comes.
3. Everything is the same to the end.

Shadow Dragons Saga:
1. Everything is the same until Goku leaves to fight the dragons. Pan still goes with him, but still no Giru; just a Radar. (Just Goku and Pan like on the original.)
2. Everything is the same until Omega Shenron and the friends and family come to help Goku.
3. Like before, the fight is a bit better because of everyone having their forms as stated above, instead of like the original...But they still all lose except Goku.
4. Everything is the same until Vegeta becomes a SSj4 and they fuse into SSj4 Gogeta.
5. ONE OF THE TWO: 1. Either they beat Omega as SSj4 Gogeta right before they unfuse. 2. Everything is the same, but instead of the Universe Spirit Bomb, Goku becomes a SSj5...that way there is more then one SSj transformation in the whole show as well.
6. Everything is the same, except Goku doesn't leave with Shenron, but they all say their good byes to Shenron and they never use Dragonballs again.
7. No Future cutscene of old Pan, Goku Jr., and Vegeta Jr. Just a montage of Goku's most famous pass moments followed by "Until We Meet Again!" DONE! Show is over!