Development Petition

[Dbzwolf]

This is a petition that, if signed, means you want RB3 to have 2+ years of development time.
If you feel like it, post suggestions and reasons why SPIKE does or doesn't need 2 years.
(This also includes recommendations for other companies: DIMPS, CC2, etc...)

[Kokos]

I sign. Generally it's better to have a longer development cycle and while I enjoy Raging Blast 2, there are a bit too many glitches. In the end it means a more polished and thus better product.

Back in May I was pretty surprised there was a sequel to RB coming so soon.

[MysticGospel]

It's not going to happen, these games are essentially quick cash-ins, there's no reason for Namco-Bandai to dump more money into a product that will likely sell a similar amount despite more development time.

[Kokos]

It's not going to happen, these games are essentially quick cash-ins, there's no reason for Namco-Bandai to dump more money into a product that will likely sell a similar amount despite more development time.

That's kinda true too...

[Dbzwolf]

Welll...
We could always ask for DLC.

[Kokos]

DLC is rather unpopular in Japan. So the chance of seeing big DLC is pretty small, if there's DLC then it's most likely a little extra.
Which is fine by me... DLC is a great idea on paper, but I feel too many developers abuse it instead.

[MysticGospel]

I think ESF would be hard to add to consoles. I think it can only be played well on the PC.

[Frieza_Soldier]

I think ESF would be hard to add to consoles. I think it can only be played well on the PC.

The overall detail is the emphasis, the feeling of watching the anime as you are playing through it is what the real ideal goal is, spike's just in it for money obviously but aren't as fan committed as Capcom. I say that game could still work with RB2's engine but as RB2 is I still don't see it being done right or weither they have enough time to really do it. What would they use their time for if they had 2 years? characters? Probably.

[MysticGospel]

Presentation doesn't make the game though.

[MysticGospel]

Define "do it right" Spike has their own idea on how to do things.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Define "do it right" Spike has their own idea on how to do things.

Mimicking the look of the anime into the game......

[MysticGospel]

Which there are multiple ways of doing.

[Sarujo]

Are you sure they need two. I think one year is enough time to produce a game. Most of the games that were produced were done in less than a year. So I do agree that a longer timetable is needed here.

[Kokos]

It's not going to happen anyway. They're probably on a contract or something like that.
It does make me wonder, there are a lot of games coming in the end of 2011. I think the game will suffer greatly sales-wise if NB isn't careful.

I'll buy the game regardless along with so many other games, I enjoy RB2. I just hope they don't pull a Tenkaichi 3... I consider that my least favorite Tenkaichi game.

[majin_ali]

i think positive with the RB3 sales
IMO it could have the potential to be the best selling RB game
you will see

[Kokos]

i think positive with the RB3 sales
IMO it could have the potential to be the best selling RB game
you will see

But you have to admit, the competition is brutal this year, unless for some reason multiple big releases get delayed.
Lots of gamers will have to make choices because they have a limited budget and as much as I hate to say this, a new DBZ game is probably low on their priority lists.

[MysticGospel]

Hopefully Namco-Bandai will show off RB3 more, they barely showed RB2 and we only got 1 real trailer.

Edit: (Off-topic)
RB hit the 1 million mark:
http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=dragon+ball+raging+blast&publisher=&console=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

[Kokos]

That's pretty neat. But the sales of RB2 seem to be lacking a little bit even at this point of the cycle.

[majin_ali]

But you have to admit, the competition is brutal this year, unless for some reason multiple big releases get delayed.
Lots of gamers will have to make choices because they have a limited budget and as much as I hate to say this, a new DBZ game is probably low on their priority lists.
then they can wait some month therewith they can pay for their DBZ game
see RB1 is still on sale, it hit the 1 million mark few days ago

RB2 is nearly to 500.000

i think that sales are "ok" for an 1 year development game or not?

[MysticGospel]

That's pretty neat. But the sales of RB2 seem to be lacking a little bit even at this point of the cycle.
Yeah, I don't think that RB2 is going to sell very well, the lack of a storymode was too much of a turnoff for people. Oh well, at least they know now to always include a story mode even if the last 10 games already had one.

Though it feels like Namco-Bandai didn't care much about RB2 and instead focused on UNS2. There was such little coverage on RB2 while UNS2 was shown off and the development team had such little enthusiasm.

[majin_ali]

its the quality of the storymode what make it worth to be in the game
i mean a storymode like Tenkaichi 1 or RB1 is dull, thats fact.. nobody needs that, but galaxy mode is even a lot more worse

hopefully RB3 will have an storymode with more than just 1 fight after another

the storymode need to be great in an Anime game!

[Kokos]

then they can wait some month therewith they can pay for their DBZ game
see RB1 is still on sale, it hit the 1 million mark few days ago

RB2 is nearly to 500.000

i think that sales are "ok" for an 1 year development game or not?

I don't know. Depends on the cost of the game. I don't think RB2 was an expensive project, aside from the Hatchiyack special.


Yeah, I don't think that RB2 is going to sell very well, the lack of a storymode was too much of a turnoff for people. Oh well, at least they know now to always include a story mode even if the last 10 games already had one.

I know, I think it's a bit ridiculous... I prefer originality at this point. That idea of dbzwolf was great, I'd like to play such a storyline.


Though it feels like Namco-Bandai didn't care much about RB2 and instead focused on UNS2. There was such little coverage on RB2 while UNS2 was shown off and the development team had such little enthusiasm.

I know, this always bothered me a bit.

[MysticGospel]

its the quality of the storymode what make it worth to be in the game
i mean a storymode like Tenkaichi 1 or RB1 is dull, thats fact.. nobody needs that, but galaxy mode is even a lot more worse

hopefully RB3 will have an storymode with more than just 1 fight after another

the storymode need to be great in an Anime game!
Wow, that's a different tone. A few months ago you went crazy over RB2 not having a story mode peroid.

I don't know. Depends on the cost of the game. I don't think RB2 was an expensive project, aside from the Hatchiyack special.

I don't think Namco-Bandai put a whole lot of money into RB2, these games are essentially made to cash in on the Dragonball license.

[majin_ali]

NBG focused this time many on Tekken Tag 2 i guess, do you see the trailer of it? it looks very promising and it seems that it will have a lot of stages and characters (but with completly diffrent styles of course lol)

just hope they will be so busy with RB3 on development too

but i'm optimistic with RB3

@Mysticgospel
of course i want an Storymode but it would be annoying when the RB3 story will be much like RB1 or T1 with poor cutscenes and many holes

i hope they orientate themselves on the T2 story m. with the flying and searching items etc.
but improved with some fresh new cool innovations

[Donie95]

Hmm, I'm not sure. A few months ago I'd probably had defintely wanted a good story mode, or one at all. But when you think about it, is one year really enough time to make a story mode with "excellent" cutscenes. I really doubt it. I don't think theres a point in them doing it if they can't make it really good. Like I don't want a half-assed story like RB1 again. I actualy think they were going on the right direction with a "non-story" kind of mode, but they just made it so terrible. I mean, it must have taken a lonng time to make that Galaxy mode for every character, linking them together and such. Like they must of really been p'd off when a lot of people said it sucked. I mean what were they thinking, I could come up with a much better main mode idea, well imo, but I havent thought it all through and its quite long, and I'd be going off topic lol.

Oh wait, thats why you want longer development time, so theres time for stuff like that (I was off-topic anyway :confused: ). I doubt they'd do that anyway, plus atm I'd hate to wait another two years right now.

[Frieza_Soldier]

This is a petition that, if signed, means you want RB3 to have 2+ years of development time.
If you feel like it, post suggestions and reasons why SPIKE does or doesn't need 2 years.
(This also includes recommendations for other companies: DIMPS, CC2, etc...)

It would be nice to have namco be fair enough to give spike that time but I want to know for sure what they'll use that time for. Will it go to gameplay? or a new gimick discussion?

[majin_ali]

Hmm, I'm not sure. A few months ago I'd probably had defintely wanted a good story mode, or one at all. But when you think about it, is one year really enough time to make a story mode with "excellent" cutscenes.

its not only the cutscenes who make a good storymode, even with short cutscenes it could be fun see Tenkaichi 2 for example or Budokai 3..

[Frieza_Soldier]

its not only the cutscenes who make a good storymode, even with short cutscenes it could be fun see Tenkaichi 2 for example or Budokai 3..

As I've said before I don't want to see sloppy animations and stiff movements like RB1, I'm at a time in my fan-lifespan to see that if they can't do it right then they shouldn't stress over it. I'd rather redrawn anime clips. I never liked the mouth animations in the cutscenes for a start. Where everything the characters said were just the models smashing their jaws together, it looked wrong especially if the character was speaking quietly. The most awkward cutscene in RB1 was The part where Vegeta was blasted with the beam and gohan jumps on him, Spike always had a thing where they always made the characters breathe with their whole bodies and that looks too exaggerated even for DBZ.

I also would rather consistant cutscenes that are for the openings and closings for the fights in a saga then them just randomly popping up in certain areas. I really hated RB1's cutscenes and it always lead to me skipping them especially the ones where they would stand and talk.

[ProjectLDV]

Realistically the higher ups at namco only care about quick cash, anime games are quick cash in schemes, simplistic games with a fan service layer spat out annually to appeal to younger less perceptive fans. Take a look at Bleach: Soul Ignition, the game is as shallow as a shower, no depth, barely any style, boring, dull & repetitive.

The 17+ fanbase is alienated when it comes to anime games as most of us are more snarky & critical. The appeal of these games is to have you spending money through sheer rapid fanboyism, you're supposed to be loyal enough to buy crap just because that crap is branded with the name of a series you like.

RB finally cracked a million. They're content as long as they can make some profit.

[LightningD]

Then they should not be suprised that the Games are selling well below average. If by now both Namco Bandai, & Spike have not realised that these measley 1 year (which is definitely not the full year) period they spend on developing these 3d DB Games just will not cut it, then it is them whom will certianly lose out. Different Screens will emerge, more DB Fans will get excited, clips from the Game will appear on Youtube & other Game Websites, then the Game will come with little improvements shown.
I am a DB Fan, but I have not bought a single DB Game since Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2. They have got to step it up, & do much much more than this, period.

[Dream Weaver]

I've coughed up dough on on every console DBZ game since Budokai 3 with the exception of Infinite World. Now regardless of the turn-out, I still enjoy RB2. However at this point I'm not buying RB3 or RB

[BardockRulez]

I will not sign a petition for a video game that'll end up like its prequels.......CRAP!!!!!

Unless they pull a stunt like Dimps did with Budokai 3, I will never buy RB3 or RB2. I'll rent it,play it with a friend,but never buy it.

[ssjgohan2009]

i sign i want rb3 that but i dont see what was good about b3 only the flying part b3 was good that need to be in

[Donie95]

@Bardockrules what if the game is really good and fun, not like its predescessors much much better, will you buy it then?

I'm not signing this petition. I just would really hate to have to wait a whole other year, 2 years is too long for me. Its not that I dont think its not a good idea, its a great idea, but what DBZ game will I be playing untill then? Not RB2, no way. If we had been given a great game last winter then I probably wouldnt even really be thinking too much into the next DBZ game. But as I am stuck with nothing, I need something.

[BardockRulez]

@Bardockrules what if the game is really good and fun, not like its predescessors much much better, will you buy it then?

I'm not signing this petition. I just would really hate to have to wait a whole other year, 2 years is too long for me. Its not that I dont think its not a good idea, its a great idea, but what DBZ game will I be playing untill then? Not RB3, no way. If we had been given a great game last winter then I probably wouldnt even really be thinking too much into the next DBZ game. But as I am stuck with nothing, I need something.


Didn't I answer that in my comment? :confused:

[Kokos]

@Bardockrules what if the game is really good and fun, not like its predescessors much much better, will you buy it then?

I'm not signing this petition. I just would really hate to have to wait a whole other year, 2 years is too long for me. Its not that I dont think its not a good idea, its a great idea, but what DBZ game will I be playing untill then? Not RB3, no way. If we had been given a great game last winter then I probably wouldnt even really be thinking too much into the next DBZ game. But as I am stuck with nothing, I need something.

There are many older games you could get and 2011 also has a very good selection of titles to look forward to.

If you need a DBZ fix, you could try Attack of The Saiyans if you haven't already. Very solid game.

[Donie95]

Attack of the Saiyans?... Its on the 3DS right. Unfortunately I don't have a DS but is it that good anyway? I don't really tend to look too much into DBZ games that arent on the home consoles too much.

[Kokos]

Attack of the Saiyans?... Its on the 3DS right. Unfortunately I don't have a DS but is it that good anyway? I don't really tend to look too much into DBZ games that arent on the home consoles too much.

It's a DS game yes. But I really liked the game, it's a light-hearted but effective JRPG even from a more objective standpoint and it told the story of the Saiyan Saga rather well.

[Donie95]

Ohh, shame I don't have a DS, I would consider getting it. If they had an RPG like that on the PSP I'd probably get it. BTW, do you know if TT on PSP is any good, or Shin Budokai 2, seeing as I was thinking of getting that? I also don't really tend to pay attention to PSP games, even though I have one, but I guess DBZ on the PS3 isn't doing it for me.

[Kokos]

I don't have Shin Budokai 2, only Shin Budokai.

I personally liked the game, it had a pretty fun story mode. It's entirely based on the Fusion Reborn movie, it's a standard story mode like Burst Limit and Raging Blast 1 for example, but you can do some decision making. You can choose to fuse into Vegetto or Gogeta when you're fighting Janemba for example. These decisions don't have any real consequences though, but it's still interesting to see what happens.

The gameplay is also very solid, just what you'd expect from Dimps but faster-paced than Budokai 3.

Overall I think it's a good game, especially since it's portable. If you're looking for a portable Budokai-like game to play I think this is a good buy.

I don't have SB2 though... it's probably the same as SB1 but with more characters and a different storyline (I heard this one is based on the story of Future Gohan and Future Trunks).

Dimps sure knows how to make some creative story modes.


As for TTT, played the demo but not the full game. I guess it's a good game if you like the idea of having a portable Tenkaichi 3. The tag team is a bit of a gimmick in my opinion though... but it's a fun addition nonetheless.

[Donie95]

Thanks, I'll give either SB1 or 2 a go, and their also quite cheap as they're old. I think I'll leave TTT, or just play the demo.

If they made a Burst Limit that could top Infinite World and the Shin Budokai's, then I'm pretty sure that it'd be a really good game.

[majin_ali]

Kbrooksgohan wrote that yesterday on namcobandai's forum

"Hey guys.

I have some news from the french forums.

Apparently there was a meeting about the future of dbz games. They mentioned rb,attack of the saiyans,origins.

In the meeting they talked about possibly increasing development time to 2 years instead of 1. There may an rb3 this year. But imo I wouldn't mind if they waited till 2012.

It's kind of a funny situation. I want an rb3 since I've grown accustom to having a dbz game every year but I CAN wait another year and a half for a better game.

I feel like adding new content for rb2 might be smart. Or making some newer dbz games or even porting the old tenkaichi series...or even budokai with some new features. Idk....but it would be nice to have something to fill the gap.

I think it could be really smart to increase the time. They really need to work on the amount of content,physics,etc. RB2 felt so fake and light. It had no punch or intensity. The characters feel like paper and they really can benefit from waiting a little longer.

If they do wait I think 40 new characters is very do able. They really need to tighten up the controls and get rid of the corny glitches/cheap moves like:

1.Hitting your opponent on the ground and then you can do a super as if they never hit the ground and land it. It's a little cheap imo.

2.Hitting your opponent on the ground and then doing a jump attack to catch them as if they never fell....very lame and cheap.

3.Get rid of the cheap and easy x teleport and make it more unique to the character and harder to do.

4.Make the characters more unique with their signatures and expand on the different types of combos. Alot of the characters share the same combos. Like if u use smash 3 you can cancel it by inputing another smash command..over riding. Almost everyone has that combo.....

5.In addition to that I say increase the amount of air combos,make new character specific smash moves,and make raging soul have more features and be less cheap."

[Kokos]

Wow... news of the day. Thanks for the information Majin_Ali.

I checked the French Namco Bandai forums to get some information on this and it does add up.
http://forums.namcobandaigames.eu/showthread.php?t=94876&page=10
This just changes about everything. Raging Blast 3 is definitely not guaranteed for a release this year.

On those forums they stated the creators also had interest in a new Budokai-like game, in the sense that they thought a new Budokai and new Tenkaichi every 2 years, kind of like Treyarch and Infinity Ward used to do with the Call of Duty franchise, is not a bad idea at all.

Basically anything can happen this year. A new Raging Blast, new Budokai, maybe even a port of Zenkai Battle Royal to give the fans something to do while waiting for Raging Blast 3, maybe even no console game at all this year. The only thing we know is that a new 3DS game is coming, but that is something we knew for awhile.

Also glad to hear about the fact they talked about a sequel to Attack of The Saiyans. At least they're still interested, even though the sales were bad. It would be ideal if it's on 3DS, covers the Frieza Saga and it's Monolith Software making it again. Day 1 buy for me, I'd even buy a 3DS for it.

As for the 2 year development cycle, at first I definitely liked the idea but after thinking a lot more about it, I'm actually having mixed feelings. While I do think more development time will make for a better game in the long run, I'm also wondering what they'll improve on if they do this. Will the gameplay be improved, or will they just make a good story mode similar to Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 and/or give us a load of characters of both GT and Dragon Ball to satisfy as many fans as possible?

I heard Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 had vastly improved the story mode compared to the first but the gameplay was the same, or worse compared to the predecessor. But don't quote me on that. If that's the case, I don't want Spike doing a NUNS2 for Raging Blast 3, yet I think that's pretty likely to happen if they approve of this new development cycle since a good story mode sells. I personally don't need it, it's something I play once and never touch again after I finished it. I'd be a bit disappointed if they went that way. I take improved, more DBZ-like, explosive gameplay over a good story mode anytime.

That is not factoring the question on how much a longer cycle will improve the game. If this news will leak out, I think most people will automatically raise their expectations, even though we have no idea how much Spike will improve the game. A longer development cycle does not automatically mean it will be a vast improvement over the predecessors in every aspect but I fear some people won't be able to see that.

They also implied that Raging Blast 3 is not in development yet. So that means either a development cycle of 6 months or 18 months. Both are not really what I would call a long development cycle. I'm playing Dragon Age II right now, got a 18 month development cycle and I can still clearly see it's pretty rushed compared to Dragon Age: Origins, which had a cycle of 4-5 years.

But I'm being too pessimistic or I'm thinking too much into it. Ideally they vastly improve both gameplay, story mode and roster which could make it the ultimate Dragon Ball game and besides nothing has been confirmed so far.
I'll give Spike the benefit of the doubt if they'll do this though. A longer development cycle could and probably will make it a better game, however I won't rule out a disappointment (speaking for myself). But I'll stay optimistic and will root for them.

Of course, all of that is just speculation, but I'm still really curious on how this will end up. I guess we'll know in May?

Damn, It's so weird... I have so many questions and it would feel weird not to get a Dragon Ball console game this year (hypothetically speaking). I'm so used to it by now.
But it is for the best, I don't mind a 2012 release for Raging Blast 3, not at all.



Sorry for the ridiculously long text by the way.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Did that mean they listened to us? I remember it being discussed in this forum and on the namcobandi site that BL 2 was demanded.
It was also requested here that Spike needs more time to make their games for better quality.... I remember specifically saying that it would be best for them to release BL2 so that fans won't beg for RB3 so early, releasing both styled games one after another keeps fans busy and gives them both 2 years to develop. I hope they take that idea forward into motion.

[Kokos]

Did that mean they listened to us? I remember it being discussed in this forum and on the namcobandi site that BL 2 was demanded.
It was also requested here that Spike needs more time to make their games for better quality.... I remember specifically saying that it would be best for them to release BL2 so that fans won't beg for RB3 so early, releasing both styled games one after another keeps fans busy and gives them both 2 years to develop. I hope they take that idea forward into motion.

Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.

To be honest I really like the idea, but a Burst Limit 2 with only 6 months of development and most likely a different team doesn't sound like a good idea to me for some reason. But who knows what will happen?

[majin_ali]

i have mixed feelings with this =/

1. the 2 years would gave them maybe the time to make an really great game

2. i was prepared and excited to see RB3 this year..

but maybe its just an little "shock" because i need to wait another 2 years to buy my first Raging Blast game

but now when i read that they even don't work on the game till this date
THEN
i say please release it not this year
because it will satisfy no one from us.. -_-

[Frieza_Soldier]

Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.

To be honest I really like the idea, but a Burst Limit 2 with only 6 months of development and most likely a different team doesn't sound like a good idea to me for some reason. But who knows what will happen?

Thats where things get dicy as krillin would say, if a different team makes the sequel it could be worse then the first.... and that just voids the series and fans wanting to give anymore chances. Dimps needs to be on this project. I doubt Spike will do it justice with their current style of creation and I know BL took longer then 6 months. I think it took about a year or 2.

And knowing the news of spike not starting the game until now, this makes me lose interest. I'm not going to have time or be of age to play RB3 if they wait til 2013. If they released RB3 this year, it will be truly garbage and worth less then a 5,5...

[Kokos]

Honestly, I think you're assuming a bit too much. For all we know RB1 and RB2 only had 6 months of development as well. I wouldn't put it past Spike and Namco Bandai.

And a new team for the Burst Limit games could turn out really well. Or it could be really bad. We don't know for sure.

[majin_ali]

And knowing the news of spike not starting the game until now, this makes me lose interest. I'm not going to have time or be of age to play RB3 if they wait til 2013. If they released RB3 this year, it will be truly garbage and worth less then a 5,5...

agreed -_-

[Dbzwolf]

Well...
Looks like this petition has become either completely pointless,
or a complete success.
Yay.

[Kokos]

I still think it was a good idea to make this thread.

[majin_ali]

do you know that they only capture the requests from the french forums from the european fanbase!? thats unfair

[Kokos]

What made you come to that conclusion?

Even if that was the case, I actually can understand that. I've seen the French forums and at first glance, they are surprisingly civil and mature about these games. If I were a developer I'd work with or listen to these people. I cannot judge the other Namco Bandai forums but still, if I had to rely on my "internet instinct", I'm guessing it's full of irrationality and unreasonable, poorly thought out requests, like so many other forums.

Treat others like you would want to be treated, that's probably the motto of many developers who listen to the fans and I can't say I'm surprised that they use that motto.

They should read this forum too though. I think we're a good enough community.

[majin_ali]

because the two community manager that i know are French and they said that to me

"We did the workshop in Paris in February with some people from Japan. It seens it was very positive, lets just hope that the developers will take the fans' opinion for the future DB game ;)"

"We did a whole compilation of the different comments and suggestions that we gathered from our official forum and the fan page."

and with the "official forum" i guess they mean the french namco bandai forum

and with the "fan page" i think the Facebook page

[Kokos]

Well, that's good. It means the feedback they got was very likely well-thought out and in good hands.

[Frieza_Soldier]

What made you come to that conclusion?

Even if that was the case, I actually can understand that. I've seen the French forums and at first glance, they are surprisingly civil and mature about these games. If I were a developer I'd work with or listen to these people. I cannot judge the other Namco Bandai forums but still, if I had to rely on my "internet instinct", I'm guessing it's full of irrationality and unreasonable, poorly thought out requests, like so many other forums.

Treat others like you would want to be treated, that's probably the motto of many developers who listen to the fans and I can't say I'm surprised that they use that motto.

They should read this forum too though. I think we're a good enough community.

If thats the case then we're safe from tha havok given by fans on youtube, but what about us? we're just as logical as them. I want to post my needs.

[Kokos]

If thats the case then we're safe from tha havok given by fans on youtube, but what about us? we're just as logical as them. I want to post my needs.

Who knows they might be reading this forum too. There isn't really a way to tell.
Besides, there's still a lot of time for them, whether it's a 2011 or 2012 release. Raging Blast 3 is most likely not even in development, or at least not in the final stages.

I do agree that they should take a look here if they haven't.

[Frieza_Soldier]

Who knows they might be reading this forum too. There isn't really a way to tell.
Besides, there's still a lot of time for them, whether it's a 2011 or 2012 release. Raging Blast 3 is most likely not even in development, or at least not in the final stages.

I do agree that they should take a look here if they haven't.
I hope our ideas are collective enough, I've posted all I needed to suggest in the past already.

[Kokos]

You have a point there, but I'm sure the community manager and/or developers can just browse through the pages. All we can hope in that case is that they aren't too selective in reading.

Though it's true, you made a huge amount of suggestions in the past.

[Frieza_Soldier]

You have a point there, but I'm sure the community manager and/or developers can just browse through the pages. All we can hope in that case is that they aren't too selective in reading.

Though it's true, you made a huge amount of suggestions in the past.

yes, myself, Kbrooks and others have done what was needed, Maybe a special thread where we only allow constructive improvement benifits to the game. on the 8-way-Run threads for soulcalibur, they have one thread that does this, strictly moderated to prevent dragging conversations, it may sound dictative but we can do whatever we want on all other threads, to where that one is specific suggestions uncharacter related.

[Kokos]

That would be a good idea. The only downside to this is that the forum could be a lot quieter with such a thread, to the point where there's almost nothing to talk about.

[Frieza_Soldier]

That would be a good idea. The only downside to this is that the forum could be a lot quieter with such a thread, to the point where there's almost nothing to talk about.

It doesn't need to be endlessly long, just a small list of what is mutually voted as what we need in the game leaving the other threads to talk how we want or what we are going to suggest.

[Kokos]

Just a heads-up: Namco Bandai is asking on Facebook what would be the perfect collector's edition for a Dragon Ball game.
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=113299055347877&topic=392

Not really related to the topic, but I figured some people might want to know.

[majin_ali]

i ask an Community manager, who is the developer of Zenkai battle royal

and he answer me this

"I'm precisely looking for confirmations about this. There is a lot of chance that Spike coudl be involved in this development but as the Arcade Game department in Namco Bandai is different than the Console Game department, links between them is not necessarily obvious. what is sure is that the Zenkai gameplay and content is already taken in account to create the next Dragon Ball Games to come.



what do you think about this?

[TigerC10]

Just a heads-up: Namco Bandai is asking on Facebook what would be the perfect collector's edition for a Dragon Ball game.
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=113299055347877&topic=392

Not really related to the topic, but I figured some people might want to know.

You sure about that? The thread has been deleted. Might not have been real... Possible just a "what if" to get fans talking.... Possible impostor posting?

[majin_ali]

You sure about that? The thread has been deleted. Might not have been real... Possible just a "what if" to get fans talking.... Possible impostor posting?

i don't think that they take an fan suggestion 1:1

they just want to hear their wishes i guess

but 1 thing is clear, the page is official

and Tony is an communtiy manager

[Kokos]

i ask an Community manager, who is the developer of Zenkai battle royal

and he answer me this

"I'm precisely looking for confirmations about this. There is a lot of chance that Spike coudl be involved in this development but as the Arcade Game department in Namco Bandai is different than the Console Game department, links between them is not necessarily obvious. what is sure is that the Zenkai gameplay and content is already taken in account to create the next Dragon Ball Games to come.



what do you think about this?

Mixed feelings... the only thing I want are the special effects, the rest looks more like a step in the wrong direction.

[Dan_Dx]

I say and repeat, it was a working meeting for reflection and not an announcement of RB3, yes a game is scheduled 3DS actually, it's not a secret, in fact, we also talked Raging Blast , origin, Attack of the saiyan, etc. ... and the direction it would be good to take, what pleases, what does not please, and especially why (believe me it's much more exciting than you think). All representatives present agreed that there should be perhaps a little more development time (2 years seems like a good hold) between each title and to satisfy the DBvores we are, why not rotate 2 sets ( sparking budokai-like and-like) to make everyone happy, we also talked about other ways to play, but many proposals, not ads.

Can a RB3 is scheduled for the end of the year, even though I knew I would not say it ^ ^ But we must be aware of one thing is that everything we have suggested is not going not happen at once in bulk, such work is done by trial and error, because what will appeal to a community does not necessarily please the other, things emerge and overlap, it is the top must work first, then refine. Obviously it takes a longer development time, it must also submit a story mode (his absence is for many in the sales figures), etc. ... After debating and discussing with all representative of the communities present, and the staff of NBP (not least), I have full confidence in their ability to analyze and discern, that is why I am confident the Future of the license, but I remember that Rome was not built in a day, and it takes some time, and even a certain time to get to our dream product that would meet our expectations clearly ... or at least to those of many, since each will always be a fundamentally different from its neighbor.

Original source : http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/996389-dragon-ball-raging-blast-2/58551108/649520370

He's a reliable source for information. Dont know if the info in itself is reliable.

[Kokos]

It is reliable, it is a almost a direct translation of a post on the French Namco Bandai forums made by someone who's a moderator and probably has ties with Namco Bandai.

But I believe everything there has already been mentioned in the topic.

[Midori]

Trust me on this, speaking as a moderator myself, I would take that info with a very heavy grain of salt at best.

[Kokos]

How so? When you think about it, everything does add up and I don't see why this person would lie to his members.

[Midori]

Simple, they don't tell us that sort of information and if they did it wouldn't be the sort of thing we'd be allowed to talk about anyhow.

Besides why would a french moderator be in on a Japanese developer meeting?

Most of his "info" is stuff that's just common sense anyhow. Is Namco Bandai going to make a 3ds Dragon ball game? Considering they haven't missed developing one on a Nintendo handheld going back as far as the Gameboy Color that's pretty much a given.

[majin_ali]

japanese developer meeting? the meeting was in Paris!
the japanese developers go there to gather the european fan requests and feedbacks
and those french community manager were the representatives

[GF9000000Returns]

The RB series is almost selling 2 million copies now. I think Spike should use all of that moolah for RB3. (after I kind of believe in the news that facebook thing has now)

[gohanks0]

i think that 2 year of development is good, but they should make every year a dragon ball game for xbox 360 and ps3, like this

2011-spike game
2012-dimps game
2013-spike game

and there goes

the priority is a every year dragon ball game

[sallyliao]

It's not going to happen, these games are essentially quick cash-ins, there's no reason for Namco-Bandai to dump more money into a product that will likely sell a similar amount despite more development time.

[Frieza_Soldier]

The RB series is almost selling 2 million copies now. I think Spike should use all of that moolah for RB3. (after I kind of believe in the news that facebook thing has now)
A year after release? I call that a poor sale, People are just sick of these games because of it's allergy to evolve. Spike has to really pump up everything if they want a box office breakthrough now.

With the attitude they had with RB's production (as If we'd buy it no matter what and they'd boom because it's DBZ) clearly is why they and the game franchise for that title is sinking to a point where no respect is given by the community outside fanboys. I was at a group gathering today maining fighting games, and I almost feel embarassed to bring RB up because of how mediocre the community of Blaz blue and MvC3 feel it is. I want to actually have a DBZ game that people who aren't fans would WANT to play. DBZ has potiential to be on top with Tekken and SF but nope because fans and Devs don't even want to aim that high. honest more renoun and respect makes more money. FF7 being sold for almost 100.00 to this day is absurd but proof of quality somewhere. Honestly I want BL2 to be that game, people like 2D fighters more then split-screen ones.

[ssjgohan2009]

i go for spike game as bl ws wosrt dbz game ever bl2 wood be be jsut budokai 2 all over dimp hsi nto ever passed spike roster i like splt screen spike games they gvae free rom dimp dont i want to move aorund nsot have move side to sdie that is i dont think ther e be bl2 it ben what 4 years nwo sene bl come out there no way there be bl2 beside i here dimp dos not want to ever mkae us games any more dimp his not ever had bojack or turles or android 13 some my fav charaters right there i dont like dimp at last spike know to had them

[Frieza_Soldier]

i go for spike game as bl ws wosrt dbz game ever bl2 wood be be jsut budokai 2 all over dimp hsi nto ever passed spike roster i like splt screen spike games they gvae free rom dimp dont i want to move aorund nsot have move side to sdie that is i dont think ther e be bl2 it ben what 4 years nwo sene bl come out there no way there be bl2 beside i here dimp dos not want to ever mkae us games any more dimp his not ever had bojack or turles or android 13 some my fav charaters right there i dont like dimp at last spike know to had them

care to explain why BL was the "worst DBZ game ever" or can I guess your reasoning? and how do you know BL2 would be B2 all over again? Oh wait, we've had this argument 3 times before...

[johnskaterr]

If they were to make a DBRB 3 for a long period of time then they should definitely put every character from DB, DBZ, and DBGT. I've been waiting for a 360 game for Dragonball to have every character because I love DBGT and the characters. Also, the oldies aren't so bad either. :]

[Banjotron2000]

SSGohan I Agree With You On That Buddy & Beside I Never Did Like The First Burst Limit & Just Like The Other Dragonball Z Games That Wasn't Fun & I'm Glad That I Throw Away & Hopeful That Dragonball: Project Age 2011 Will Be Tons Of Fun

Dragonball Z: Budokai
Dragonball Z: Budokai 2
Dragonball Z: Infinite World
Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi
Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2
Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3
Super Dragonball Z
Dragonball Z Saga
Dragonball Z Burst Limit
Dragonball: Raging Blast

[Frieza_Soldier]

SSGohan I Agree With You On That Buddy & Beside I Never Did Like The First Burst Limit & Just Like The Other Dragonball Z Games That Wasn't Fun & I'm Glad That I Throw Away

Dragonball Z: Budokai
Dragonball Z: Budokai 2
Dragonball Z: Infinite World
Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi
Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2
Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3
Super Dragonball Z
Dragonball Z Saga
Dragonball Z Burst Limit
Dragonball: Raging Blast

Wow. Then you hope this new game is worth that "exchange"

[Banjotron2000]

No What I Say That I Hope Dragonball: Project Age 2011 Will Be Alots Of Fun

[Frieza_Soldier]

No What I Say That I Hope Dragonball: Project Age 2011 Will Be Alots Of Fun
I want it to be revolutionary. They need that.

[Banjotron2000]

Frieza_Soldier I See What You're Saying

[Donie95]

I believe it will be revolutionary.

[GF9000000Returns]

Now I'm starting to believe Spike started working on this game back in late January. Judging from the pizazz from the trailer.